Talk:BayTSP

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[edit] IP Addresses

Do we want the IP addresses here?

Firstly, can the addresses be verified. No source is given for the addresses at the moment. If we can't find such a source, or otherwise verify the addresses, then we should remove them, IMO.

Then there's the issue above whether it is NPOV to include them. The fact that few other organisations have their IP addresses lists, and the sentence before the address which seems to give subtle encouragement to block or log BayTSP IPs. A more NPOV approach, I feel, would be note that some people do block or log their IPs, if this is the case, with links to relevant websites.

It also seems that IP addresses are liable to change without notice, and would probably require some work to keep the IPs updated, unless there is a website we can get the info from, in which case I think a link to the website would be better, as that would presumably document that some people are blocking or logging the IPs. Silverfish 12:55, May 22, 2005 (UTC)

A good idea with the site and all. I do think they should at least remain until a viable option is available. I, like many of my internet friends, am anti-anti-piracy. Not exactly pro-piracy, I do buy software, but I think these people just cause problems. I don't believe for one moment that companies lose more than a few thousand in lost revenues from piracy. $50,000 USD tops. Down with the Crapfest!

EDIT: I looked up a few of the IPs in an IP address locator, they were all in Iowa. Maybe someone placed them their against a company based in Iowa that they want personal revenge on?

PirateMonkey July 6th, 2005

[edit] Article Quality

It's not my habit to nominate articles for deletion, but this is poorly written and is not well formatted. --evrik 21:20, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

  • I just apred the article down to its barest elements. --evrik 23:00, 2 November 2006 (UTC)


--2007-09-16-- I have attempted to make a real article out of this. The current page consists of sparse factual information, complete lack of citation, and content consisting mainly of an unverfied "DMCA takedown" notice.
The rationale for my changes is follows:
  • The summary needs some factual, cited information. Currently contains vague, incomplete information and "Similiar companies are -"
  • There is no reason to host a DMCA takedown notice as the primary encylopedic content for a company.
I have instead linked to BayTSP takedown notices catalogued by the Law School at Stanford University "Chilling Effects" project.
  • I do not pretend to be an "expert" on this topic, only a best effort to bring the article up to wikipedia standards.
  • I'm not sure the "Suspected Inaccuracy" section which cites a blogspot article as reference adds value, but I will leave it as-is.

Sigterm 23:31, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

My research has indicated that the original creator of this article perhaps mistyped or neglected to fact check. "Mark T. Ishikawa" is not listed in the company profile. "Mark M. Ishikawa" is referenced in the company managment page[1] and as a speaker for BayTSP at the Berkman Center (Harvard Law)[2] Sigterm 15:44, 17 September 2007 (UTC)