Talk:Baudouin I of Belgium

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[edit] Requested move

Baldwin I of Belgium → Baudouin of Belgium — This is the name by which the king is best known. Charles 11:53, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Survey

  • Support As nominator. Charles 11:55, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Survey - Support votes

  1. Support; it is the only name by which he is commonly known in English, and this is the English Wikipedia, not Dutch, French, or German. --Russ (talk) 15:47, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
  2. Support Name most used in English & restores status quo ante after several unilateral moves. Lethiere 18:32, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
  3. Support; he never was and, more or less, never is referred to as Baldwin in English. Cripipper 18:43, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
  4. Support. While it is correct that his English name is Baldwin and that Baudouin may be Belgically non-neutral, it is (for better or worse) the form almost exclusively used in English sources. —  AjaxSmack  07:49, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Survey - Oppose votes

  1. Oppose Given that he had several different language names in Belgium, we should use English to avoid having to choose between Dutch/French/German. --Henrygb 15:00, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

This is to stop moves to superfluous forms of the King's name and to restore the form of his name which is used most. Charles 11:55, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Google shows over 60,000 hits for "King Baudouin" +Belgium -Jerusalem -wikipedia, and only 400+ for "King Baldwin" +Belgium -Jerusalem -wikipedia (-Jerusalem to exclude references to the medieval monarch of the same name). Taking the first 30 of these 400+ as a representative sample the vast majority (approx. 75%) are from websites hosted in countries where English is not a native language. This situation arose because an editor unilaterally decided that Baudouin was a bit tricky to pronounce and because this is the English wikipedia it would be easier to call him Baldwin. I think he/she must also have moved all the redirects, thereby squatting on the original and making it impossible to revert. I inadvertently violated style conventions in my attempt to sort out what I felt to be the rather more important matter of getting his name right. Cripipper 18:48, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Show of opinion on Leopold III instead of facts

"Though reinstated in a plebiscite after the war, it became clear that Léopold was too controversial a person to be a unifying force, hence the abdication."

He abdicated to preserve the union of the country, because of a "fight" between 2 sides, Pro-Leopold 3 and one against him.

==No children== Why couldn't Baudouin & his wife have children? There is no medical explanation given. Mightberight/wrong 16:50, 3 November 2005.

[edit] Baudouin or Baldwin

Isn't Baldwin the English version of Baudouin or Boudewijn? If so, I suggest the name be changed to Baldwin. --B-west 15:35, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Baldwin is the English version of Baudouin/Boudewijn, but I have rarely, actually never, heard him refered to as Baldwin, but either by Baudouin or Boudewijn.

I've never seen him called "Boudewijn" in English. It's possible that English newspaper discussion of him from when he was a child refer to him as "Baldwin", but certainly "Baudouin" is the primary form. john k 20:47, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, but that's a bit confusing to pronounce compared to "Baldwin". Additionally, Baldwin is the english form, and this is an english-language encylopedia. After, Kaiser Wilhelm II is called by his english name, "William II, German Emperor", in his article.- Alex The Gonz 01:01, 13 September 2006 (UTC).

Unfortunately he is never called Baldwin in English. Cripipper 22:15, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately. Švitrigaila 22:27, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

? Cripipper 22:32, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, you're right. But I think it's too bad. Švitrigaila 22:51, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

What the heck are you talking about? In any history textbook, he's referred to as "Baldwin". 74.133.188.197 04:09, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] King of Belgains

Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure it's "Belgians" bot Belgains. 72.197.133.100 22:18, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stamp

I have found an old stamp collection in my house, one of which is an old Belgian one with Baoudouin's face on it. I don't know how to upload/copyright junk it, but if it sounds like it could help this article I could try. --Leathlaobhair 23:30, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reign started

Baudouin I's reign began July 17th, 1951. The day after his father's abdication. Baudouin took his accession oath on July 17th (Belgian succession isn't automatic, like most monarchies). GoodDay 04:57, 25 February 2007 (UTC)