Talk:Battle of the Philippines (1941–42)

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[edit] P-40s

I question there were 107 in the Philippines. There were also a number of obsolescent P-36s which seem to have been counted; Caidin's 'Ragged, Rugged Warriors' puts the number of '40s at 72 (54 Es, 18 Bs), the balance P-36s.

[edit] FEAF controversy

This is massively understated. MacArthur had 8.5 HOURS warning (hearing when the attack went into Hawaii), and express orders from DC to "Execute Rainbow Five"--attack, because the country was at war. He did nothing. It has been suggested (in "Ragged, Rugged Warriors" and "Pacific Sweep", I think) Sutherland intercepted Brereton's requests to MacArthur. Why Brereton did not disperse his aircraft on his own authority is not clear to beacuse macarther wanted him to tell him frist

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(I also question the number of P-40s credited, mentioned elsewhere as 54/18:72). --K D Faber

[edit] Japanese caution

I would suggest Homma's caution was more due to the fact MacArthur actually outnumbered him. (Just don't ask me for my source.) --K D Faber

[edit] P-40s again

I would give credit to the fighter commander, a Col Harold "Fighter" George (so named to distinguish him from Harold "Bomber" George, who had a different middle initial...) --k d faber

[edit] Name

I would like to rename this article to Battle of the Philippines (World War II). That would fall more in line with the current naming scheme for the war and be less ambigious (at first I thought there might be multiple battles at this place during the war).

There were, that's why the present name workes better. See Battle of Leyte. Grant65 (Talk) 15:20, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] MacArthur

I believe something about MacArthur's return to the Philippines (in which he retook it) after the attack on Pearl Harbor needs to be added. Please correct me if I am mistaken, or if this is already a page. RcSamuraihahaha

Good point, I will address this. Grant65 | Talk 08:01, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] numbers.

The battle of the Philippines have less casualtie numbers from both sides than the Battle of Battan and corregidor together. Can someone explain me this.

Another point, most of FEAF planes destroyed by the Japanesse raids were bombers not fighters.

[edit] Jesus Villamor and Cesar Basa

Do Jesus Villamor and Cesar Basa deserve a mention in this article? Jesus was a clearing house of information that helped liberate the Philippines and had a direct chain of communication with Gen. MacArthur at the time, and Cesar Basa was the first Filipino casualty of World War II, and both of them are Philippine Air Force heroes. (See the respective Wikipedia articles for more details.)

Eustachius 06:26, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

I changed the wording on some of the sentences to make them sound better. Feel free to change some of them back if they arent correct. Just trying to help this article. -WVU-DOHFAST 03:28, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

This Wikipedia article suggests that it was Japanese bombers that caused the bulk of the damage to the fortifications at Fort Mills in early 1942. In fact, the bombers caused little damage and what they did accomplish was soon repaired. It was the shore-based Japanese artillery - in particular their 9.4" (240mm) howitzers that did the most damage. The Japanese could rely on spotting planes and intact supply lines to continually pound all of the fortified American positions. The only American fort that successfully resisted this punishment was Fort Drum (the Concrete Battleship).

[edit] Killed and Wounded

This article lists only 2500 killed and 5000 wounded on the Allied side, and less than 2500 combined casualties on the Japanese side. However, Battle of Bataan which was one componet of the larger campaign, list casualties in the 10s of thousands on both side. A very large discrepency, does anyone have the correct figure? Homersmyid 06:06, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Please try to solve this problem; someone with books related to this topic, is imposible to sustain 10,000 killed in one battle and less than 2,000 dead in the campaign including the battle. Best Wishes Miguel —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.41.97.41 (talk) 21:08, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The start of the war

The article says that the first landings started on 12/8/1941 a day after the attack on pearl harbor. However, because the Philippines on on the other side of the international date line form Hawaii. The war did start on the 8th in the Philippines and Japan. The Philippines were under attack 7 hours after word of the attack reached the Philippines. Zginder 16:19, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Fixed. —wwoods 22:44, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Needed: Japanese occupation of the Philippines (1941-1945)

Hi. The Military history of the Philippines during World War II article is very sketchy and on its page there is a red link for an article about the Japanese occupation of the Philippines (1941-1945) a very important subject that is still needed as there are already articles about: the Japanese occupation of Burma; Japanese occupation of Hong Kong; Japanese occupation of Indonesia; Japanese occupation of Malaya, North Borneo and Sarawak and Japanese occupation of Singapore, so this gap is glaring. Anyone with and interest or expertise in this topic is welcome to start writing it. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 11:39, 28 December 2007 (UTC)