Talk:Battle of Singapore

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[edit] Singaporean support for China?

The introduction states that one motive for Japan to occupy Singapore was "to eliminate the sources of charitable aid and philanthropy from Singapore that were supporting the Chinese resistance. Aid from the population of Singapore in its several forms became part of Imperial Japan's motivation to attack Singapore through Malaya." Do we have a source for this? I am not necessarily disputing it, I just think it needs a reference. Grant65 | Talk 03:33, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

I recall this from my history textbook. There should be other sources hanging around — I think if one investigates the Sook Ching anyone with connections with the charities were branded as anti-Japanese and executed. Elle vécut heureuse à jamais (Be eudaimonic!) 19:03, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

While of interest, length of content in article on this topic implies this was major motive and thereby understates the only real japanese strategic motive, the securing of Malay and Indonesian strategic resources, chiefly oil, rubber and certain metals to support the Japanese military machine, at war with china, while the European colonial powers were weak and after the USA embargo of oil.~~Howard. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.103.170.250 (talk) 18:42, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] dutch

at the battle of singapore muesueum at fort silso says that there were dutch saliors involved in battle and taken prisoners can anyone verify this on net? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.197.71.40 (talk) 06:49, 8 January 2007 (UTC).

On the Same Subject i once read in a book on the battle that said there was mongolian officers there to that surrenderd although it didnt mention there fate. Wonx2150 14:52, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox picture

I think that having a photo of the surrender to illustrate the battle is quite uncool. Don't we have a map or at least a battle photo? -- Миборовский 08:16, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External Link

I think the first link is dead.

[edit] Aftermath

I know the article touched a little on what happened afterward (the Japanese Occupation), but shouldn't there be at least some indication of what happened after the British surrender? The museum at Fort Siloso indicates that the surrender only applied to the British army. The local Malayan forces continued to resist the Japanese occupation from hidden jungle bases through guerilla warfare. --Dubtiger 00:49, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sourcing for totals captures

The totals for troops captured listed in the intro needs to be sourced. --Lendorien (talk) 17:04, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

especially considering that 5,000 + 2,000 + 80,000 = 87,000 and not 85,000. So dd the British pull 2,000 men out of their hats or what? Tourskin (talk) 00:41, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Surrender

Currently the article says:

The terms of the surrender included:
  • The unconditional surrender of all military forces (Army, Navy and Air Force) in Singapore Area.

If it was an unconditional surrender then there could be no terms of surrender. Perhaps the phrase "terms of the surrender" needs to be re-written. Also was it an unconditional surrender or a surrender at discretion? --Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 17:11, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Troop totals and tactics

In Brian P. Farrell's exhaustive study of the campaign (The Defence and Fall of Singapore, 2005) (not just the final seige), he gives troop totals as:25th Army (Japan) 125,408, all ranks ; Malay Command (Brit) 130,264, all ranks. This is very different form the totals expressed in the article. Does the article mean combat arms only? Source? Also, greater remark might be made of not only superior japanese infantry technique but the great advantages coming from sea and air control,along with light armour, that flat footed the defenders.~~Howard