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[edit] Verst

The term verst is obsolete. I'd suggest that using km or miles (or preferably both) would be more helpful for the reader.Larry Dunn 16:16, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

It is used in primary sources describing the battle and as such it can't be obsolete. It is not applied to, say, measure the distance between New York and Vladivostok. If it was, then it would be obsolete. --Ghirla ^-трёп- 17:57, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Verst is a legitimate measurement, although it is not frequently used anymore. --Ineffable3000 19:00, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

And one verst is basically 1 kilometer. --Ineffable3000 20:45, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

This is English-language wikipedia. The term verst has no meaning to people in the Commonwealth or the USA, which is the majority of the world's English speakers. Remember that the purpose of Wikipedia is to inform, and usage of terms with no relevance to readers should be avoided. A cubit is also a valid unit of measurement, but it makes no sense to use it in modern parlance. The fact that it is used in primary sources just underlines the fact that it is obsolete and not relevant to most English Wiki readers -- the battle was fought over seven hundred years ago, in Eastern Europe. Whether you are talking about the distance from Moscow to New York, or the distance a Russian militiaman marched with his spear in hand, the distance should still make sense to the reader. Larry Dunn 14:20, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

This article is quite pro-Russian. Nothing about massacres, nothing about bishop Alexander of Tartu, who was killed in this battle. Nothing about St Mary's Chapel.

Russian victory. Cessation of German and Danish aggression for 30 years

This battle was held in Estonian soil. Is this not an Russian aggression?

Is that not called Battle of Maholm?

Belongs this site to Russia today?

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Is there any precedent of calling this battle the "Battle of Rakovor" outside of the Russian historical literature? Rakvere was a foreign territory for Russia. Why should that Russian name be used? In the article Rakvere that battle is called "Battle of Maholm" according to the Baltic German historiography. Maholm is the German name of a parish (Estonian Mahu). Now its center is Viru-Nigula. Andres 14:12, 24 September 2007 (UTC)