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[edit] Sources, references and copyright

During my attempts at adding citations to the article i came across some texts/references that were wrong or are incredibly outdated. I ask the author of those references to provide more information such as publishers or dates, or where new copies could be available.
I have a major issue with plagiarism concerning this article. On the page [1] the editor writes:
Kanjpura on the banks of Jamuna River, sixty miles to the north of Delhi, was next besieged and the whole Afghan garrison was killed (Also see Syed Altaf Ali Brelvi, Life of Hafiz Rahmat Khan p-108-9). Ahmad Shah was encamped on the left bank of the Jamuna River, which was swollen by rains. The massacre of the Kanjpura garrison, within the sight of the Durrani camp, exasperated him to such an extent that he ordered crossing of the river at all costs. S M Lateef, “History of the Punjab”, p-235, quotes "Tarikh-i-Ahmadi", and writes:...
In the wikipedia article the text is:
In Kunjapura on the banks of the Yamuna River, sixty miles to the north of Delhi, was next stormed by the Marathas and the whole Afghan garrison was killed or enslaved (Also see Syed Altaf Ali Brelvi, Life of Hafiz Rahmat Khan p-108-9) Ahmad Shah encamped on the left bank of the Yamuna River, which was swollen by rains was powerless to aid the garrison. The massacre of the Kanjpura garrison, within the sight of the Durrani camp, exasperated him to such an extent that he ordered crossing of the river at all costs.(S M Lateef, “History of the Punjab”, p-235, quotes "Tarikh-i-Ahmadi")
The first question to ask is one of copyright, as it is a public domain website and i can find no evidence of copyright permissions heled or withheld, i have not deleted the offending statements. They do need rewording though.
The second question is, what is the correct name of the river.?
My other main problem is the fact that these references are being quoted through a third person; he said, that he said that he said: this is correct. The information in the article needs to be properly sourced and cited. I have started adding citation templates but some of the texts aren't accessible and so need to be properly cited so that other editors can verify them. Woodym555 15:25, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
The only question I'm able to answer is that the name of the river is more commonly spelled Yamuna, and as Hindi does include a J sound, I find the quoted spelling incorrect. Piouspiast 10:06, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sources, reliability and bias

I will try to explain my reasoning behind my reverting the large scale additions of text to this article recently. As i have stated in my edit summaries wikipedia is not a place for original research. All additions need to be sourced and verifiable if they are to remain. They also need to be written from a neutral point of view. The additions, in my opinion, did not meet these policies. The text had a heavy bias towards one side and was unsourced. If you have the sources I would be happy to help you add them in and add the appropriate referenced text. Please try and discuss this before re-adding the text to the article. Thankyou. Woodym555 15:13, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This is crazy!

If there's one page that really needs editing, I think this is it. Those reasons for outcome and aftermath sections are a heckuva lot longer than they need to be (and seem to be amazingly tangential). I'm going to see if I can get someone to fix this thing up (I don't have the time to do it myself). Piouspiast 10:01, 2 December 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Nanasaheb's pic

I think the image put up is of Peshwa Nanasaheb II, wrongly attributed to Balaji Bajirao II or Nanasaheb I. Can anyone check this? Salilb (talk) 20:51, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

The image has been removed. Salilb (talk) 11:30, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] German map

The map of the extent of the Durrani empire has a German legend. An English map is required. Anyone can change the current one or get a new one? Salilb (talk) 11:30, 22 May 2008 (UTC)