Talk:Battle of Osgiliath

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Needs work. Rewrite the page, I just gave you guys stuff to work with.- B-101 14:46, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)

That fool Nanoboy has been at it again: He put Faramir's strength at 2,1000 and his loses at 700-800. WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THESE NUMBERS? WHERE? I think he's just making them up. ***Faramir had about 500 men, the book says this. It doesn't mention how many exactly were lost. Plus, in the first chapter of ROTK they give a detailed account of how many men reinforced Minas Tirith, which combined with their own garrison was under 5,000. I don't think 2,100 were in the field. But the point is, where did you get "2,100", Your imagination? A video game? Cards? WTF mate. Further, he goes on to say that there were "21,000 to 28,000" Morgul Host plus Haradrim. Where are you getting this? There were ~200,000 Orcs and 18,000 Haradrim (the book says 3X6,000 = 18,000). And he listed Mordor losses at 2,200 to 2,700--->based on WHAT? What are you basing this on? Numbers that look pretty to you? ----Ricimer

Actually, I have now read your previous "forces" thing from old edit: it's baseless. I can't find this refferences to "Faramir losing a third of his men" in the book, or anything stating how many men he took. Can you cite page number, etc? I did find the reference that Faramir's men killed 10 times there number, but it was just a drop in the buckt for a 200,000+ army. ---Ricimer

Actually, Faramir says before the battle that even if they made the enemy pay 10 times as much, they would still rue the crossing of the enemy. It doesn't reference the actual orc casualty count. In the chapter "The Siege of Gondor", it says that Faramir had lost 1/3 of his men in the retreat from Osgiliath. I did some work on the movie adaptation. - Shanath18

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