Talk:Battle of North Point

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[edit] problem with "North Point"

The link of "North Point" linked to the North Point of Hongkong, not the North Point of Baltimore.

Errrh..sorry to spoilt it for those that would like to re-write history, but the British won the Battle of North Point. They took the field, and the Americans withdrew. Deathlibrarian 09:58, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] American victory?

How on Earth was this battle an American victory, and a strategic one at that? The British effectively won this battle, the British took the field and the American forces withdrew to Baltimore. How does that classify as an American victory? It is like trying to say the Battle of Britain was a Strategic German victory as the British forces did not gain any territory on the continent, its just pathetic and stupid to be honest. This article should have Indecisive at best. (Trip Johnson (talk) 11:35, 27 April 2008 (UTC))

It saved Baltimore from being Burned down like Washington was. (Red4tribe (talk) 16:38, 27 April 2008 (UTC))

Sounds like original research if you ask me. And, the Battle of Baltimore saved Baltimore, not North Point. (Trip Johnson (talk) 17:30, 27 April 2008 (UTC))

The British attacked from land a sea to try and take Baltimore. The Sea was stopped by Fort McHenry, and the land by North Point. The British may have had control of the field after the battle, but they were to weakk to assult the city. (Red4tribe (talk) 17:42, 27 April 2008 (UTC))

By the rules of war back then, whoever holds the field, wins. (Trip Johnson (talk) 19:29, 27 April 2008 (UTC))

That isn't your view on the Battle of Princeton is it? This battle saved Baltimore from being destroyed. The British might have held the field after the battle, but they were too weakend from the battle to make an attempt to take baltimore, thefore making it a strategic American victory. (Red4tribe (talk) 20:11, 27 April 2008 (UTC))

Funnily enough, its my view on the Battle of Baltimore. At Princeton, both sides fell back to a certain degree, however since the Colonial forces outmaneuvered the British Royal troops, it was a strategic success. At Baltimore there was no such event. Also, your grounds that the British did not attack Baltimore after North Point makes it a great American victory is a load of crap. It is like saying that the Battle of Gazala was a immensely successful Allied strategic victory because Rommel could not press his advantage. It wasn't a strategic victory in any sense, because the Germans held the ground that they had attacked, but suffered heavy casualties rendering it a Pyrrhic Axis victory. I think we could term the Battle of North Point a Pyrrhic British victory or Indecisive at the very least. Obviously you are going to mention the fact that the British did not attack Baltimore straight away but why would they? 3,500 vs 12,000? The expedition to Baltimore was a suicide one at the very least. Again, your views also sound like original research, and you are also notorious for using very unreliable sources. Several users have already blasted your use of myrevolutionarywar, stating and backing up that it is unreliable. (Trip Johnson (talk) 15:40, 28 April 2008 (UTC))

Neither of these are myrevolutionary war. You are too difficult to reason with so I have no intention of reading or responding to anything you put on here. You can continue with your effort to twist every battle into a British/English victory but I have every intention of making sure you list a reliable reference first. (Red4tribe (talk) 21:31, 28 April 2008 (UTC))

I'm not trying to twist battles into British victories. Its just that some seem to have an inability to discuss before alterations. (Trip Johnson (talk) 22:00, 28 April 2008 (UTC))