Talk:Battle of Al Mansurah

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• "Islam's citadel and arsenal" are words of the historian Arnold Toynbee.Samsam22 (talk) 23:15, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

• Why you use vandalism ? you can not change history by vandalism . All information here are from sourcebooks.Thank you Samsam22 (talk) 23:17, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree with Samsam22. I see that cierderf7 removed some things such as, "The crusaders circulated false information in Europe claiming that king Louis IX defeated the Sultan of Egypt in a great battle and Cairo had been betrayed into his hands." However you can read "The Memoirs of the Lord of Joinville" and see that this was the truth. Lord of Joinville was a crusader who fought in Louis's army. Isa Alcala (talk) 23:29, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

• "The crusaders circulated false information in Europe claiming that king Louis IX defeated the Sultan of Egypt in a great battle and Cairo had been betrayed into his hands". See sourcebook The Memoirs of the Lord of Joinville. If you read the book of the Lord of Joinville you will notice that I used his words.

The story of the death of Robert of Artois is quoted in many sources and also in The Memoirs of the Lord of Joinville which is in French and thus available to you.

"and many of the crusaders were seized and exhibited in the streets of Cairo". see sourcebooks "Ibn Taghri, al-Nujum al-Zahirah Fi Milook Misr wa al-Qahirah" and "Al-Maqrizi, Al Selouk Leme'refatt Dewall al-Melouk". The French editions are available. Samsam22 (talk) 23:49, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

• I saw vandalism was made by you also on page of Sirat Sirat al-Zahir Baibars. I wrote to you this there :

" Cirederf7 , please stop vandalism. This article goes about Sirat al-Zahir Baibars. The introduction goes about why Baibars was popular and not about French being beaten by him. It explains why the Sirah emerged. Please stop that . As I told you before you can not change history by vandalism."Samsam22 (talk) 03:09, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

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• Dwarf Kirlston you asked for references I added that and removed your banner. If you wish more refrences let me know. Thank you Samsam22 (talk) 04:12, 26 January 2008 (UTC)