Talk:Battle Dress Uniform

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[edit] 'vietnamese'

I think "vietnamese" should redirect to the Republic of Vietnam, not the main article on Vietnam.

[edit] Starching a BDU Battledress?

Does anybody know why on the label of US made True-Spec BDU trousers it is written that you should not starch them? I have heard a military urban myth that starching your battledress makes it easier to see you using night-vision equipment. Can anybody deny or confirm this claim? Thank you for your time. Mieciu K 13:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

• Yep, it is indeed true. The manufacturers of the uniform treat them with an IR emittance reducer that can be undermined with starch or even regular washing detergents that use brighteners when in the wash. Shadowrun 11:27, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Better Picture?

The current photo showing the uniform off isn't that great. I'll find a pic that is in the public domain (one that shows off the patter n better- the one shown just looks like another green uniform) I'll put it in. Shadowrun 11:18, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Out of Uniform

U.S. Air Force Tactical Air Controllers (known as a Joint Terminal Attack Controller since 2004) wearing BDUs on a mountain in South Korea (June 2003).

Close up view of the uniform of a Japan Self-Defense Force soldier serving in Baghdad, Iraq (April 2005).

In the new image posted (i.e. Airmen at Fort Huachuca, Arizona), the Air Force troops do not comply with uniform standards (i.e. even under field conditions). Note the tape on the helmets and lack of headbands...

Actually, the Airmen on the mountain in South Korea meet both Air Force and Army uniform standards. Indeed, I find it amazing that the newly inserted photograph of these airmen is the featured image on the Ft. Huachuca installation page (i.e. since it's an Army post).

Additionally, if war broke out tomorrow on the Korean peninsula, the airmen pictured on the South Korea mountain top would be the ones calling in air strikes against advancing North Korean armor. As far as images go, there's a big difference between troops involved in a real world mission and those training in the sandbox called Arizona. On the day I took this photograph, these airmen were directing A-10 pilots on practice targets near the DMZ.

Granted, it's a group photo...but the place and mission are for real...

Anyhow, instead of getting into a running battle over such a minor point, I've moved this photograph to the relative safety of the discussion page...lol.

Take care and keep smiling!
v/r
Peter Rimar
March 11, 2007

P.S.
The acronym B.D.U. (Battle Dress Uniform) is a term used by U.S. military troops to describe this specific style of camouflague uniform. While other nations may use a woodland pattern design for its uniforms, to the best of my knowledge, the Battle Dress Uniform described in this article is U.S. military specific.

Why? Well, this particular camouflague pattern was first designed, tested and fielded by the U.S. military. It was specifically created for U.S. troops serving in the Europe during the 1980s (i.e. as part NATO).

While some Hezbollah fighters in southern Lebanon wear B.D.U.s, those uniforms are counterfeit copies of the U.S. original. Indeed, Osama bin Laden, in one of his last news conferences before September 11th, 2001, wore a B.D.U. jacket (i.e. U.S.-style woodland pattern) to the event.

Until recently, the U.S. Army primarily used the D.C.U. (Desert Camouflage Uniform) for its troops serving in Iraq and Afghanistan. However, both the B.D.U. and D.C.U. are being replaced by the digital pattern A.C.U. (Army Combat Uniform).

To The Gate Keepers of Wikipedia-World:
I suggest changing the name of this article from Battle Dress Uniform to all lower case letters (i.e. battle dress uniform). That way, it'll have a more global focus.

[edit] Biased towards US military

This article is overly biased towards US BDU's.

I would have thought their would be some mention of SOE and Denison smock's used in WWII —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 148.197.132.22 (talk) 03:24, 13 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Merge with Desert Camouflage Uniform

Agree, these should be merged. Tmaull 15:10, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article focus

This article doesn't seem to have much information about the actual M81 BDU. A lot of info about predecessors and replacements though. - Tmaull (talk) 19:31, 1 February 2008 (UTC)