Talk:Batman: The Man Who Falls
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[edit] List of people who trained Bruce Wayne
http://obscure.dcuguide.com/Board/BatmanChars4.htm Who taught the young Bruce? I found these persons:
BATMAN #431: Kirigi BATMAN #434: Mark Jenner, Frederick Stone, Kinsley, La Salle, Peter Allison, Raphael Di Giorda, Hank Jones BATMAN #435: Webber, Aurelius Boch, Mr. Shastri, Mr. Campbell, Mary Mc Ginnis BATMAN #567: David Cain
DETECTIVE COMICS ANNUAL #2: Harvey Harris DETECTIVE COMICS ANNUAL #3: Tsunemoto DETECTIVE COMICS #599: Chu Chin Li, Henri Ducard
Thanks to Two Face 22's exhaustive list, there really isn't much to add other than the unnamed medical examiner from GOTHAM KNIGHTS # 1, the Rhana Bhutra from SUPERMAN: THE ODYSSEY and Alfred, who taught Bruce about acting. Also, in a development inspired by the animated series, Zatara was said to have trained Bruce Wayne, too (JLA: BLACK BAPTISM # 2).
I'd eliminate Mary McGinnis (who wasn't one of Batman's teachers; she was killed because the killer thought she could implicate him) and Lady Shiva (who worked with Batman later but not at the beginning of his career).
Here's the list of appearances:
BATMAN ANNUAL # 13: Alfred Pennyworth.
BATMAN CHRONICLES #6: Dan Mallory.
BATMAN: GOTHAM KNIGHTS #1: unnamed medical examiner.
BATMAN: GOTHAM KNIGHTS #29: Max Dodge.
BATMAN: LEGENDS OF THE DARK KNIGHT # 1: Willy Doggett.
BATMAN: LEGENDS OF THE DARK KNIGHT # 52: Shao-La.
JLA: BLACK BAPTISM # 2: John Zatara.
ROBIN # 31: Ted Grant.
SUPERMAN: THE ODYSSEY: The Rhana Bhutra.
Pre-Crisis:
DETECTIVE COMICS # 226: Harvey Harris.
DETECTIVE COMICS # 227: Barrett Kean.
DETECTIVE COMICS # 244: Lee Collins.
UNTOLD LEGEND OF THE BATMAN # 1: Amos Rexford.
And, while it doesn't exactly involve a teacher, LEGENDS OF THE DARK KNIGHT # 95 contains a flashback to Bruce's battle with the Magician in Europe.
http://dcu.smartmemes.com/DCTL_3_TL.html#80s
Enda80 20:56, 18 April 2006 (UTC)Enda80
[edit] Date of Publication?
there's no date. when did this story come out? -anonymus user
- Hi there -- this story first appeared in 1989. I'm working on brushing up the article to makes some elements, such as this, more clear. ~CS 22:09, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Original sources
I am working on improving this article -- including citing the original sources that O'Neil draws upon for this story. Obviously there are quite a few that I cannot place -- either because I don't recall where they first appeared, or because I have not read them. The following are the problem areas, if anyone wants to add information on them.
- Young Bruce falling into the batcave as a child. - I think the college and FBI experiences are in Len Wein's "The Untold Legend of Batman", but I am uncertain. - Korea and Master Kirigi (this might also be from "Shaman", but again, I can't recall).
Thanks, ~CS 22:39, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Info I have gathered from message board users as to Batman's trainers and issues they appear in.
> 1.Kirigi - Martial Arts- Bat #431 > 2.David Cain - Martial Arts - Det #734 > 3.Henri Ducard - Martial Arts, Marksmanship - Det > #599 > 4.Chu Chun Li - Martial Arts - Det #599 > 5.Tsunetomo - Martial Arts - Det Ann #3 > 6.Willie Doggett - Manhunting, Survival Techniques - > LOTDK #1 > 7.Harvey Harris - Detective Work - Det Ann #2 > 8.Dan Mallory - Trailing, Detective Work - Bat Chron > #6 > 9.Shao La - Taoism - LOTDK #52 > 10.? La Salle - Body Building - Bat #435 > 11.Frederick Stone - Demolitions - Bat #435 > 12.Mark Jenner – Driving - Bat #435 > 13.Peter Allison - Gymnastics - Bat #435 > 14.Raphael Digiorda – Archery - Bat #435 > 15.Aurelius Boch - Toxicology - Bat #435 > 16.? Webber - Acids - Bat #435 > 17.? Shastri – Ophidia - Bat #435 > 18.? Campbell - Electronics (presumed) - Bat #435 > 19.Unnamed Knife Expert - Knives - Bat #435 > 20.? Kingsley – Chemistry - Bat #434 > 21.Alfred Pennyworth - Disguises, Acting, Vocal > Mimicry - Bat Ann #13 > 22.Ted Grant – Boxing - Robin #31 > 23.Oliver Queen - Archery - GA #134 > 24.Richard Dragon – Martial Arts - RD#3 > 25.John Zatara – Sleight Of Hand, Arcane Mysteries, > Ventriloquism, Escapology - JLA:BB #2, Det #827, Det > '833. > 26.Max Dodge - Escapology - B:GK #29 > 27.Arthur McKee - Maintaining Criminal Aliases - Bat > #589 > 28.The Rhana Bhutra - Peace (presumed) – Superman: > The Odyssey > 29.The Ten-Eyed Tribes Of The Empty Quarter – 52#30 > 30.The Lamas Of Nanda Parbat – Unknown – Bat #663 > 31.Unnamed Medical Examiner - Coroner's Work - B:GK > #1 > 32.Unnamed Convicted Killer - Savate - B:SOTB #0 > 33.Unnamed Ninjas - Using Shadows, Psychology Of Fear > - B:SOTB #0 > 34.Unnamed Monks - Healing Arts - Ultimate Guide > 35.Unnamed Bushmen - Reading Environment, Hunting - > B:SOTB #0 > 36.Unnamed Cattlemen - Bolas Use - Ultimate Guide > 37.Unnamed Yanomami Hunters - Blowpipe Use - Ultimate > Guide > —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeffstrange (talk • contribs) 23:20, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
