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[edit] Rusty Stars

[edit] Old Glory

The Barnstar of Diligence
I hereby bestow the Barnstar of Dilligence to Wahkeenah for his persistence in keeping the Flag of the United States article free from vandals. — BQZip01 — talk 00:05, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Minny Ha-Ha-Happy Returns

The Original Barnstar
To Wahkeenah, on the occasion of Minneapolis, Minnesota reaching featured article. -Susanlesch 04:56, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Shucks, folks, I'm speechless. :)

[edit] Useful warnings

[edit] Vandalism warnings





[edit] Spam warnings

[edit] 3RR warnings

[edit] Indiana Jones

The information about Marshall College at Yale belongs in a production section of some sort. If we only have information relating it to the fourth movie, it probably belongs in that article's production section. As far as the separate article for Saucer Men, that article is word for word identical copy and paste from the box in the main Indy 4 article. I don't think it needs its own article either. It's not like we can find any more information on it to expand that article. ColdFusion650 (talk) 14:19, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

That's fine with me. ColdFusion650 (talk) 14:33, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikimedia Commons

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--OsamaK 06:52, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

FWIW, I upload all my pictures to Commons (I still have a bunch from my latest trip to upload...) They're a little more strict about freeness but it's never affected me adversely. E.g., a picture like this one might be attacked there because it's a picture of a picture that is probably still copyrighted. Then again, it might not if it's on the side of a building and falls under their freedom-of-panorama statutes. But, like I said, I've never had anything deleted from Commons. Your latest uploads would definitely be fine. —Wknight94 (talk) 12:57, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] State Farm Insurance

I made an entry to State Farm Insurance that you have removed. State Farm hired Patni Computer Services to provide H1B employees in which Patni underpaid the employees who worked on State Farm's home location. In fact Patni, had to make a settlement with the Federal Govt to make it go away. The citations clearly support that. How do you propose that we include that in the Wikipedia page? I could agree to include it in the "Criticisms" section. Thanks - Bob Heath User:Bobheath 19:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

This is Patni's issue, not State Farm's. Patni's page is where this belongs, and in fact it's already there, posted by the original reverting user. [1] There is no indication that State Farm is culpable in any way. If it's to be mentioned on the Star Farm page at all, it should be just a link in a "See also" section. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 19:44, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
As cited by the citations, State Farm alleges that they paid $100,000 per employee for the H1Bs, when Patni claims that the prevailing wage in that location is less than $44,000. I can go for the "See also" citation. Should I put it under "Criticisms"? User:Bobheath 19:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
If State Farm got duped by Patni, then how is State Farm culpable? Put it under "see also" and see if that flies. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 19:56, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Who says State Farm was duped? State Farm? State Farm has the same data that we have. The people worked at State Farm's location. State Farm did not know who was working in their own building? Actually, the citations speak for themselves. Thanks - Bob HeathUser:Bobheath 20:07, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
As recommended I created a See Also section. Does that meet with your approval? Thanks - Bob HeathUser:Bobheath 20:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
The cited article says State Farm hired Patni. It is Patni that is alleged to have underpaid the Patni employees. There is no issue on State Farm's part. This link does not belong in the article. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 20:47, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Please continue the discussion on that article's talk page rather than here, in case other editors want to join in. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 20:51, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Will do. Thanks - Bob HeathBob HeathUser:Bobheath 20:53, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AN/I question

Er, examples of what - the synthesis or the unpleasant circling of the wagons in the article discussion? - Arcayne (cast a spell) 22:31, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Lol, okay. I'll add them to the report is due course. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 23:03, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Negro Leagues in general

McGraw and Rube Foster were said to admire each other, and many of the same management myths are attributed to each. Each one has the story attributed to him that he fined a player for disobeying orders after hitting a home run when ordered to bunt, even though the original story was told no later than 1890. It's uncertain whether McGraw lacked prejudice or whether he was a "do anything to win" guy. Considering his near-disastrous relationship with Hal Chase, the latter is obvious, though it doesn't rule out the former. No matter what the motivation, McGraw, had he had the power to do so, would have integrated the majors about 1902.

Ruth was indeed popular with black ballplayers and fans. Newt Allen told and retold the story of Ruth sharing a cut of tobacco chaw with him, a remarkable act in the age of segregation. Ruth signed autographs and shook hands with black fans as well. The rumor throughout Ruth's career was that he had Negro blood (his most hated nickname was "N-----Lips"), and his lack of racial prejudice helped fuel that, though it did nothing to his popularity with fans.

As for Landis, his place in Baseball Apartheid is still not entirely clear. It's obvious that he made a convenient (and even willing) scapegoat for the times, it's obvious that he harbored racist beliefs himself. What is not obvious is whether he was personally responsible for keeping baseball segregated or whether he simply had a role to play in the grand shell game: many managers said they had no problem with blacks, but it was the owners; owners said it would not a problem except that too many players would object; most players would not object, but baseball had its rules; the Commissioner says there is no rule barring blacks, go talk to the managers.

As for Landis' "purging" of the gambling problem, I'd suggest you find and read the book, Burying the Black Sox, by Gene Carney; it is an excellent study of how Baseball (with Landis' participation) swept gambling scandals under the rug as much as dealing with them. It's also an excellent lesson of why MLB keeps finding itself armpit-deep in scandals every few years, as it usually turns a blind eye, hoping it'll go away, and then turns into Captain Renault and declares itself "shocked, shocked" to find the latest problem.

On your last point, about the eventual death of the Negro Leagues: If there had always been integration, there would have never been a need for the Negro Leagues. When Jackie Robinson broke the color line, the walls did not come tumbling down; it was over 10 years before all Major League teams integrated (the Red Sox did not until 1958), and some minor leagues remained segregated for as long. The Negro Leagues saw their purpose as a showcase for black talent that Organized Ball still had not made room for, and they did that for a few years, but it left older players (good enough to play in the Majors, but not "star" enough to qualify for one of the limited spots in OB's quota system) out in the cold, and they ended up playing out the string in Mexico or somewhere like the Manitoba-Dakota League. It would have been nice if Baseball could have financially supported the Negro Leagues as a development league during that transition period; I think that integration might have progressed faster, if only because the NAL would not have been so easily ignored as it was after 1947.

End of my editorial as well. Good chatting with you again. -- Couillaud (talk) 14:19, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rolling back the page moves

I don't know the best way to do it, actually.. I'm not an admin, and I'm not sure even if the admins have good tools for this. VandalProof (which I run) has a rollback-all button, but I do not think it works for page moves :(

If an admin doesn't get to it soon, I can help you go through 'em manually if you want. Man, that was crazy! heh... --Jaysweet (talk) 19:50, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry, But..

I don't see how having one wikipedia article linking to He May Be Old, But He's Got Young Ideas means it isn't orphaned. Generally, Articles are considered orphaned until at least 3 proper articles link to them. Therefore, I am re-adding it to the list of orphaned articles. Retro Agnostic (talk) 02:41, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

If you look at the Criteria section of the WikiProject Orphanage page, you will see the full criteria for what qualifies as an orphaned article. And to answer the question you left on Retro's talk page, no, an article won't get deleted just for being an orphan. What the orphan tag does is tell me and others who are trying to build the web that we need to come try to add more incoming links. We'd like to have every article linked to by at least three other proper articles, which we feel is the minimum necessary to really have strong depth to our encyclopedia. Happy editing!--Aervanath lives in the Orphanage 13:08, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Caution

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. [Test] Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 19:01, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AIV

Thank you for your anti-vandalism work, but please ensure that before you report a user to AIV, ensure they have received sufficient warnings, and that they have vandalized after the 4th level final warning. Any questions on this, let me know. xenocidic (talk) 20:19, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Might I also suggest you use the standard warning templates rather than creating your own. This is to ensure other vandal-fighting automation programs will recognize which level of warnings they have received. Twinkle can assist with this. xenocidic (talk) 20:21, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
They're templated for a reason. Some users are using programs such as huggle, and there are also bots that depend on the templated warnings to determine when to automatically report a user to AIV. xenocidic (talk) 20:31, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Personal note

It is unfortunate that we first encountered one another on a matter on which we have strongly held philosophical differences of opinion. I suspect that overall, and as regards Wikipedia in particular, we agree on a lot more than we disagree on. I just looked at your User page (and the not-so-hidden page to which it links). What I saw there confirms, at least in my own mind, that suspicion.

  • We both actually have some philosophy about what Wikipedia is and should be, and we both care. I agree with practically all of your stated philosophy. I am one of those who is inclined to work on the writing quality (I would never cite journalism overall as exemplary of good writing), and favor full bibliographically correct citations. Many years ago, I was a senior editor of a scholarly journal.
  • If I understand correctly what you mean by Liberal American Patriot, we are on the same side of the political spectrum. I still describe myself as McGovern Democrat. I was a "card carrying member" of the ACLU for more than a decade before Bush I coined that communist-tinged term.
  • We are also both concerned about censorship. I joined and became an activist in People for the American Way when the organization first formed in the early 1980s, because I was concerned about how Jerry Falwell and his ilk were campaigning to censor school books, and for awhile were succeeding.

This is not an "I'm sorry I said what I said" message. Nor is it a "You should be sorry for what you said" message (except for bogus: you really should look up that word's etymology). Rather, it is an attempt at making a human-to-human contact, something that can be elusive in strictly online communication. Finell (Talk) 21:16, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

PS: The tool for generating vandalism warnings that you have on your Talk page is very impressive. Did you program it yourself? Your User page is also is a great piece of work, and shows a lot of wit.

[edit] Bubba Gump shrimp company

We went down to the launch of STS-124 a week ago and came back through St. Augustine, Florida, and passed a Bubba Gump Shrimp Company resturant. But it wasn't near mealtime, so we didn't stop. We are planning to go back to St. Augustine next fall or winter, so maybe we will check it out then. Bubba73 (talk), 15:36, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

You thought about it, though. :) How close were you to the launch pad? Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 15:55, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Your contributions on The Day the Music Died

Please refrain from using blatant ad hominem in terms of my spelling/grammar error in your discussion. The first time you tried to be high and mighty was plenty. Here's some light bedtime reading for you, Bugs. Cheers. Tamajared (talk) 04:15, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

You also misspelled "led" as "lead", in a section I deleted anyway, because the 2001 crash report said nothing, that I could see, about the 1959 crash. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 22:38, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
You are mistaken, once again. I wasn't logged in when I started this section on your talk page, but that there was me. I did not add that article you deleted on "the day the music died" page, nor did I misspell "led." Tamajared (talk) 04:15, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Great. So there have been two bad spellers messing with the article. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 04:18, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] could you please do me a favor?

Hello,

I am a master student at the Institute of Technology Management, National Tsing Hua University, Taiwan. Currently I am wrapping up my master thesis titled “Can Wikipedia be used for knowledge service?” In order to validate the knowledge evolution maps of identified users in Wikipedia, I need your help. I have generated a knowledge evolution map to denote your knowledge activities in Wikipedia according to your inputs including the creation and modification of contents in Wikipedia, and I need you to validate whether the generated knowledge evolution map matches the knowledge that you perceive you own it. Could you please do me a favor?

  1. I will send you a URL link to a webpage on which your knowledge evolution map displays. Please assign the topic (concept) in the map to a certain cluster on the map according to the relationship between the topic and clusters in your cognition, or you can assign it to ‘none of above’ if there is no suitable cluster.
  2. I will also send a questionnaire to you. The questions are related to my research topic, and I need your viewpoints about these questions.

The deadline of my thesis defense is set by the end of June, 2008. There is no much time left for me to wrap up the thesis. If you can help me, please reply this message. I will send you the URL link of the first part once I receive your response. The completion of my thesis heavily relies much on your generous help.

Sincerely

JnWtalk 05:10, 12 June 2008 (UTC)