Talk:Bass drum

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[edit] Triple Bass

This is becoming a popular variation in hardcore, and should be added to the article. Ridethefire3211 15:36, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Berlioz quote

I love this quote. I can't figure out where I originally found it, and I don't know if it can fit in the article:

“Only one member of this orchestra allows himself no sort of diversion. Engrossed in his task, active, tireless, his eyes fixed on his notes, his arm in perpetual motion, he would deem himself dishonored if he were to miss a quaver or attract censure for the quality of his tone. The close of each act finds him flushed an perspiring, exhausted and breathless; and yet he does not dare take advantage of the few moments afforded him by the lull in the musical hostilities to drink a glass of beer in the nearest bar. The dread of lingering there and so missing the first bars of the next act is enough to rivet him to his post. Touched by his zeal, the manager of the opera house to which he is attached once sent him six bottles of wine ‘by way of encouragement’. The artist, conscious of his worth, far from accepting this gift gratefully, returned it to the manager with the haughty message, ‘I do not need encouragement!’ It is easy to guess that I am referring to the bass drum player.”

– flamurai (t) 06:35, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] "Kick drum" incorrect?

I've been drumming for 5 years, and I've always heard and assumed bass drum and kick drum are generally interchangable, except that a kick drum is always pedal-operated (as on a set) whereas a bass drum may be hand struck (as in marching or concert bands). The Drum kit article itself even refers to the "kick drum" being from when they used to be kicked to make a sound (something I've attempted and it makes very little sounds, and surely isn't good for your heads.) Is there any reputable sources that confirm the kicking legend OR that "kick drum" is incorrect? Also, the line about mostly non-drummers using "kick" is false. It's possible that those who aren't classically trained may not use it, but in concert band we use it often to differentiate the concert bass and the drumset bass. Evan Seeds (talk) 03:22, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Kick Drum"

The statement that the bass drum is "often incorrectly referred to as a 'kick' drum" is, itself, incorrect. The correct distinction must be made between the concert bass drum and the drum set bass drum, the later being termed the 'kick' drum. The concert bass drum is generally struck with a handheld mallet, whereas the 'kick' drum is struck with a mallet attached to a foot pedal.

[edit] Concert Bass Drum

This article should begin by defining 'Bass Drum' in general:

"A bass drum is a large drum that produces a note of low definite or indefinite pitch."

Then it should continue with a brief description of, and distiction between, the concert bass drum, the pitched bass drum(s), and the drum set 'kick' drum. A section of the article should be dedicated to each type.

[edit] Double Bass article split and concert BD reconsidered?

In my opinion, this article's discussion of the double bass pedal and its variations may be suited for a separate article on this topic. I also think that that some space in this article should be used for a more in-depth discussion of concert bass drums, including more detailed physical specs, playing techniques, etc. This facet of bass drum seems to be under-represented in this article, considering the depth of the discussions of double bass and marching bass. --Rahzel 21:29, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree. It could also do with a brief history of the use of the bass drum in orchestral music (use in opera houses, first use in a symphony, etc.) and a mention of orchestral repetoire pieces with significant bass drum parts (Symphonie Fantastique, the Verdi Requiem, possibly one or two Mahler symphonies, etc.) - Lbark 06:44, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

What is written about the double bass drum and pedal is great, but I would like to have seen equally thorough information about the more usual single bass such as playing styles, set up, etc.

[edit] Double Bass info

The world record citation cites Wikipedia as a source, it has been remeved, do not re-enter it. --User:Jman8088 23:44, October 26, 2006.

[edit] Vruk - Bass drum Merge proposal

The Vruk appears to be a drum accessory that doesn't need its own article. I am happy to do the merge I would appreciate some input from drummers as I may for some technical reason I dont understand be wrong. However at a glance it is simply a link to a commercial site.--Matt 00:48, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vruk - Bass drum Merge response

The Vruk is simply an attachment being used by a handful of drummers. It is basically an advertisement, supposedly to "improve" your control, and has no widespread use in the metal drumming world.

[edit] John Bonham

In the double bass techniques part the following is mentioned: "Then ultimately mastered in the 1970s by John Bonham of Led Zeppelin using only a single pedal."

Is this appropriate? I don't think it makes any sense. How can someone master a double bass technique using only one bass and one pedal? John Bonham had legendary bass drum skills, and can therefore be mentioned in this article but not in the double bass part.

If he was a significant influence on double bass drumming he could be mentioned in the double bass part, but then that should be explained (and, of course, sources should be used).

I'll remove it. Emmaneul ^(Talk) 12:03, 27 June 2007 (UTC)