User talk:Barryispuzzled

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Here to help improve the articles. Puzzle Master 21:28, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

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Like your article on Baconian theory; you'll want to add a few references, but I'm sure you plan to.

Hope to see a lot more of your work! Williamborg (Bill) 14:06, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Baconian theory

I appreciate your kind and helpful comments in relation to the Baconian theory article. (Puzzle Master 23:42, 2 September 2006 (UTC))

You're certainly welcome. The comments were sincere. After a few hours of looking at the material from new contributors, it was an immense relief coming across an article so well written. I marked it to come back to read carefully later. Skål - Williamborg (Bill) 23:49, 2 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Avoid legal threats

Barry: I know you think I'm trying to gang up on you but I honestly am not trying to. However, I do try to make sure Wikipedia guidelines and policies are followed. That's why I was so concerned when I saw your recent edit to Shakespearean authorship (see this diff [1]). Because you are new, you may not be aware of Wikipedia:No legal threats. This official policy is rather tough--in short, anyone making any kind of legal threat on Wikipedia can find themselves instantly banned. I don't believe you intended the edit summary at [2] (where you said "responding to libel" in reference to a statement about yourself) to be a legal threat but that's how some editors might take it. I'd suggest you preempt any possible trouble by stating on the page that you were not making a legal threat. Anyway, I'm about to go on vacation for a few days but I wanted to let you know about all this. Best, --Alabamaboy 23:45, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

My apologies Barry, although, you have to admit it looked kinda dodgy. ;) The Singing Badger 20:46, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

A present: Wikinfo. Just what you always wanted. The Singing Badger 01:46, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] check discussion at William Shakespeare

Thought you might like to know that the Strats are quickly building a concensus to cut down the section on authorship on the main William Shakespeare page. These cuts include the summary on Bacon (as well as Oxford and Marlowe). The discussion is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:William_Shakespeare#Consensus_on_authorship_section While we are on opposite sides (officially) of a three sided question, I have always thought that Bacon and Oxford were more connected than most will even consider.Smatprt 02:12, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I believe that you need to check this out it may interest you

I suggest you look at the links. And I am not intending on destroying any of your research, but there are some interesting points Here. Francis Carr's assertion is that Bacon was both the author of the Shakespeare plays and of Don Quixote.Ladb2000

Carlos Fuentes raised an intriguing possibility in his book Myself With Others: Selected Essays (1988) noting that, "Cervantes leaves open the pages of a book where the reader knows himself to be written and it is said that he dies on the same date, though not on the same day, as William Shakespeare. It is further stated that perhaps both were the same man. Cervantes's debts and battles and prisons were fictions that permitted him to disguise himself as Shakespeare and write his plays in England, while the comedian Will Shaksper, the man with a thousand faces, the Elizabethan Lon Chaney, wrote Don Quixote in Spain. This disparity between the real days and the fictitious date of a common death spared world enough and time for Cervantes's ghost to fly to London in time to die once more in Shakespeare's body. But perhaps they are not really the same person, since in the calendars in England and Spain have never been the same, in 1616 or in 1987." Out of all of the potential candidates, Cervantes' life spans that of Shakespeare's. Indeed, he is the only candidate to have died in the same year as Shakespeare. Miguel de Cervantes would have had the experience and the knowledge of Italy and other geographic areas that appear in Shakespeare's plays. Furthermore, the story of The Taming of the Shrew predates Shakespeare's play and originated in Spain. Likewise, the story of Romeo and Juliet originated in Italy, also predating Shakespeare's play. Cervantes' candidacy rests in large part on his knowledge and, equally so, on his extensive travels. One other intriguing piece of evidence, that may shed some light on the authorial connection between Cervantes and Shakespeare lies in the pages of Don Quixote itself. The name Cid Hamete Benengeli (that of the author or translator of the story according to Cervantes) can be translated as Lord Hamlet, of England. It is also worth noting, that one of Shakespeare's lost plays, Cardenio, was based upon the stories of Cervantes' great novel, Don Quixote.

The Spanish word berenjena means eggplant. I realize this. The suggestion that has been made by certain scholars is that one can translate Benengeli as Ben (which would mean son) and engeli(which could mean England). Cid or Cide does in fact mean Lord. And Hamete is one letter away from the name Hamlet. I am simply putting forward what other scholars, in particular Francis Carr. Francis Carr is a proponent that Francis Bacon was the author of Shakespeare's plays, and that he also authored Cervantes' Don Quixote. My opinion is that Miguel de Cervantes took the pen-name William Shakespeare. I do not subscribe to Carr's belief that Bacon was both men. However, I direct you to the following char Carr compiled with textual similarities: http://www.sirbacon.org/links/carrtable1.html. The English translation of Don Quixote has many more textual similarities with Shakespeare's plays than either do with works written by Bacon. This does much to explain the substantial amount of gaps that appear in Carr's chart between Cervantes and Bacon and between Shakespeare and Bacon.

Carr's own assertion is that: "It is brought to our attention that the name of the" real author" of Don Quixote de La Mancha is Cid Hamet Benengeli, an Arab historian. This is completely fictitious, no author by that name ever existed. Not only does the author put forth this name as the real author but it's mentioned thirty-three times. Why should someone keep on repeating and repeating a name if he does not want you to take that name seriously? It's a very odd name, Cid Hamet Benengeli. Cid translates as Lord, Hamet - Hamlet, Benengeli--ben means son, engeli can mean of England. So we get Lord Hamlet, son of England--Francis Bacon." (http://www.sirbacon.org/carrinterview.htm) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ladb2000 (talk • contribs) 04:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] DYK bacon

Are you sure Baconian theory was a DYK on June 10, 2007? It would have been way more than 5 days old then. Wrad 23:48, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Smatprt

I have filed a report on the administrator's forum against Smatprt arguing for a ban. You are welcome to contribute testimony. [[3]] (Felsommerfeld 11:33, 12 July 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Shakespeare Collaboration

The Shakespeare Wikiproject is starting another collaboration to bring Romeo and Juliet to GA status. Our last collaboration on William Shakespeare is still in progress, but in the copyedit stage. If you have strong copyedit skills, you may wish to continue the work on that article. Members with skills in other areas are now moving on. Improving Romeo and Juliet article will set a standard for all other Shakespeare plays, so we look forward to seeing everyone there. Thanks for all your help with the project. Wrad 20:48, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shakespeare project - New collaboration debate

The Shakespeare project's first collaboration has ended in success, with William Shakespeare reaching FA status! Congrats to all who chipped in! We also had success in our second collaboration Romeo and Juliet, which is now a GA. Our next step is deciding which article to collaborate on next. Please join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Shakespeare#Next Collaboration to help us choose. Thanks. Wrad 04:10, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hamlet

The Shakespeare Project's new collaboration is now to bring Hamlet to GA status. Wrad 00:41, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Check this out

You might want ot comment here [[4]]. Right now there are two angry stratfordians trying to delete (or alter) the authrohship line on the William Shakespeare page.Smatprt 11:05, 19 October 2007 (UTC)