Template talk:Barack Obama
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I feel that Reverend Wright should be in this template. The most notable figures in his life should be here, not just family (esp family members that don't matter like his sister. ObamaGirlMachine (talk) 01:06, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
agreed - all notable figures related to him should be on here. I'll change the template to reflect that unless someone disagrees. QuirkyAndSuch (talk) 14:27, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
- I've taken all these out. We don't have them for the other candidates. That's a WP:COAT issue. They're mentioned in various articles and it may be appropriate for a category. Wikidemo (talk) 16:55, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
I see, you're right, I checked some other candidates and it appears this isn't usual. That seems odd, but I'll accept it. I am placing Bill Ayers election controversy next to the wright controversy already there, since this is commmon. QuirkyAndSuch (talk) 17:37, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Do we really need to include "I Got a Crush..."?
{{editprotected}} It was a brief-lived Internet sensation, but it's really not that important an article about Obama. Even Yes We Can, which was arguably more noteworthy, could be deleted without great loss to the template, IMO. But it really seems silly to include I Got a Crush... on Obama. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 06:09, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Yes! Definitely delete these incidental links to internet videos from the template. I watched and enjoyed both, but really this is trivia... maybe something to mention briefly in some related articles, not in the main template. LotLE×talk 19:38, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- Looks like it's been removed. – Luna Santin (talk) 02:49, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Template fully protected
Please refer to . Non-admins, please feel free to use {{editprotected}} template to request making edits to this template. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up® 06:41, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Remove flash-in-pan "controversies"
{{editprotected}} C'mon... putting partisan coatrack election issues in the template! There's no way the Ayers, nor even Wright, controversies belong in the template. Nothing like that occurs in other politician articles. This is gross POV soapboxing. LotLE×talk 19:43, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- Looks like this was removed. – Luna Santin (talk) 02:50, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not so sure about the Ayers controversy, but the Wright controversy is completely relevant. It has done a lot that has affected not only Obama, but his presidential campaign and the 2008 presidential election as a whole. The other candidate's template, {{John McCain}}, mentions his lobbyist controversy and Keating Five; {{Hillary Rodham Clinton}} mentions Whitewater and critical authors and books; {{Ronald Reagan}} mentions Iran-Contra. There isn't any coatracking going on, but rather presenting all aspects of Obama's career. And the Wright controversy is just as relevant as his "More Perfect Union" speech. In fact, without the controversy, he wouldn't have delivered the speech at all. Happyme22 (talk) 19:24, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- I'm undecided on this particular issue, but comparing the Wright controversy to Iran-Contra, or even Whitewater, is ridiculous. They don't even compare. Powers T 13:47, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- It's not a matter of whether they compare to one another (because I agree with you that Whitewater and Iran-Contra were much more serious). Rather, it is a matter of including controversies/criticisms in the template. Again, Ayers is a no because that one has not impacted the race to as much of an extent as the Wright controversy has. But for WP:NPOV and consistency reasons, Wright needs to stay. Heck, {{George W. Bush}} has entire section devoted to criticism. Happyme22 (talk) 01:36, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- I'm undecided on this particular issue, but comparing the Wright controversy to Iran-Contra, or even Whitewater, is ridiculous. They don't even compare. Powers T 13:47, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not so sure about the Ayers controversy, but the Wright controversy is completely relevant. It has done a lot that has affected not only Obama, but his presidential campaign and the 2008 presidential election as a whole. The other candidate's template, {{John McCain}}, mentions his lobbyist controversy and Keating Five; {{Hillary Rodham Clinton}} mentions Whitewater and critical authors and books; {{Ronald Reagan}} mentions Iran-Contra. There isn't any coatracking going on, but rather presenting all aspects of Obama's career. And the Wright controversy is just as relevant as his "More Perfect Union" speech. In fact, without the controversy, he wouldn't have delivered the speech at all. Happyme22 (talk) 19:24, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
