Talk:Bart Berman

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[edit] Second piano parts

What is a "second piano part"? --Camembert

A second (piano) part is the difference between solo work and a duet. Bart Berman's second parts for Clementi, Bach and Stiebelt are listed on http://www.notesonfranzschubert.com/keyboards.htm --Gidonb

Ah, so they're just additional parts to be played at the same time as the originals, right? (Sorry, I know it seems obvious, but it's just such an unusual thing to do I want to be sure I'm not misunderstanding.) Is that really the case with the Bach as well? I ask because the page you cite says "Right Hand Piano Part for Bach Sonatas in E Minor and E Major" which to me suggests a realisation of a figured bass rather than a second part to be played by a second person - do you happen to know if that's what it is? I'm just looking to make the article a bit clearer. --Camembert

He is not the only instrumentalist/composer who attempts to draw unrealised potential out of classical works, whether through completions or additional parts. If I understand correctly, in case of Bach he wrote the second hand part, rather than instrument part. The Schubert completions were at times the same, as Schubert sometimes wrote a bit more for one hand, but finally stopped writing both hands (in case of the unfinished sonatas that is). Perhaps the following pages will be helpful: http://www.notesonfranzschubert.com/composit.htm http://www.notesonfranzschubert.com/unfinished.htm http://www.notesonfranzschubert.com/completing.htm Have a nice day! --Gidonb

I've fiddled with the article a little bit - it seems a bit clearer to me now (I'm sure I was just me having a mental block or something really). Thanks for you help, Gidonb. --Camembert

You are welcome. Thanks for your questions and editing. --Gidonb

[edit] Israeli

Um, is he Israeli? If so, that should be stated in the article itself, not just implied by the category. If not, he should be removed from the category of Israeli musicians. --Woggly 07:58, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Don't know much about him, but he is listed on List of Israeli musical artists, so take it from there... IZAK 08:20, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)