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Some of the issues I have seen portrays Zemo as having had reformed (after he had been placed in his new body). Is this the case, or was it a ruse not significant enough to mention?


It's not a simple question to answer. Zemo currently considers himself a hero but he is willing to lie, cheat, betray and kill to further his goals. I wouldn't say he is either a hero or villain right now. He tries to do the right thing as he sees it but part of his motivation to do that is to annoy the heroes. Also his perception of right and wrong is skewed.

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[edit] Mark Evanier

Has Zemo really used the alias Mark Evanier ?

Aha - "(The Avengers and the Thunderbolts novel) - Gruber was approached by Mark Evanier, a Hollywood executive who apparently wished to add Gruber's information to a documentary on Heinrich Zemo. Gruber refused to pass on any information on Zemo, at which point Evanier began asking information regarding the parties who had purchased Heinrich's technology through him. When Gruber again refused, Evanier grabbed him and injected him with some sort of truth serum. At the same time, Evanier deactivated his image inducer, revealing the horribly scarred visage of Helmut Zemo. " - http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/gruberfr.htm

Shouldn't the novel be mentioned ? -- Beardo 04:47, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Birthplace

I believe it has been established in several sources (comics and the Official Handbook) that Helmut Zemo (and the entire family) are from real-life Leipzig. Should the article be modified to include that? MCalamari 05:39, 29 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Zemo family

I was wondering if there would be a page exploring the Zemo family tree? The 4 part limited series Zemo: Born Better is supposed to explore most (if not all) of the 13 barons in the Zemo lineage. I think the series comes out on Valentine's day. --ksofen666 05 February 2007.

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BetacommandBot 02:55, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 12th or 13th?

The caption under the main image of Zemo lists him as Heinrich, the 13th Zemo. He is then listed in his description as the 12th. I don't personally know which is correct, but it would be nice if someone would correct this problem.FallenSon (talk) 14:50, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 19:01, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

Although the trivia section was rightly removed, I'm pasting it here in case anyone can properly add any of it back into the article at any point.

  • The identity of Baron Zemo was briefly held by an impostor named Franz Gruber. Gruber had once been Heinrich Zemo's pilot.
  • Heinrich and his technology were responsible for the powers given to Wonder Man and Power Man.
  • Helmut was responsible for the creation of Vermin, Nocturne, Devil Slayer, the current Swordsman and various protoids.
  • Helmut funded the second Secret Empire, the terrorist organization that turned fellow Thunderbolt Charlie Burlingame into Charcoal.
  • Heinrich killed the original Citizen V and most of the members of the original V-Battalion. Heinrich was once believed to have killed Captain America's sidekick Bucky.
  • Helmut and his wife Heike kidnapped several children (allegedly from abusive homes) and tried to indoctrinate them into their ways. The children became known as the Kinder. Not all of these children were of Aryan descent. At least one was black.
  • Heinrich was originally referred to as Dr. Zemo. He did not become Baron Zemo until Daredevil annual #1 (1967) which was well after his death in Avengers #6 (1964).
  • Helmut wasn't given his first name until Captain America #293 (1984).
  • It wasn't revealed until Thunderbolts #1 that Helmut was the 13th baron in his family's lineage.
  • Helmut has had his fair shares of deaths and resurrections. He has survived falling into a boiling vat of Adhesive X, being disemboweled by Vermin, given a stroke by Mother Superior, fallen into an active volcano, fallen off the roof of Avengers mansion, and even being beheaded by the Scourge of the Underworld.