Talk:Barley

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[edit] Cleanup

Added a cleanup template because the tail-end of the article looks to be a very long quote from an old "cyclopedia". Including the whole thing verbatim makes a poor article - especially as the style and vocabulary is rather dated - but relevant info could be picked out from it and verified by someone who has the time. --Zak 15:06, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Under the heading "Yield," I changed the line:

"The per country yield of production in 2004 was as follows:"

to read:

"The per-hectare yield of production in 2004 was as follows (in hectograms):"

I hope I was correct in assuming that is what those figures signify.

--Eric Martinson, 22:30 UTC, 11 March 2006

I have deleted the following:

Barley may be divided into two major cultivar groups, fall and spring, to which may be added a bastard variety called bear or bigg, which affords similar nutriment or substance, though of inferior quality. The spring is cultivated like oats; the fall, like fall wheat. Early barley, under various names, was formerly sown in Britain upon lands that had been previously summer-fallowed, or were in high condition.

The most proper seed season for spring barley is any time in March or April, though good crops have been produced by seeds sown at a much later period.

Because the language suggests this is an extract from a 19th century British farming manual. The information is very out-of-date and only useful if in context, i.e. in block quotes with a source.

Mark Nesbitt 09:42, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

"a malt that soon ferments and become slightly alcoholic." Isn't malt germinated grain that has been roasted? You would need some sugar to get alcohol. --Yak 08:57, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I've never made beer. Does one add sugar? Wetman 09:02, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)
no. In the germination process, the starch of the grain is changed into maltose, a form of sugar, and that is changed into alcohol during fermentation. Ungerminated grain only contains starch, no sugar. --Yak 09:09, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)

From the language, it appears certain that it wasn't just one paragraph quoted from the 1881 book, but the next three as well. I have assumed that to be so, and made the following changes

  • moved the blockquote down
  • changed Wiki header to html header
  • enclosed conversion in brackets and rounded them appropriately, on assumption that they were not in original

I did not check earier edits to see if changes have been made in the quoted material. This should not be edited freely; snipping and ellipsis marks might be approriate. Gene Nygaard 13:16, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

What is "braird" supposed to be in that quote? Gene Nygaard 13:28, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

And what is 'luder' in the History section?

Swedish: luder - trot
Danish: luder - prostitute, whore
German: luder - hussy, minx
I think this might the insertion of this word might be a prank. Check the history. Rintrah 13:46, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
Is the "bastard variety" of the Cultivar section also a joke? Rintrah

[edit] fifth?

Conflict: Barley is the fifth largest cultivated cereal crop in the world (530,000 km² or 132 million acres). Sorghum is the fifth major cereal crop grown in the world (47 million hectares harvested in 1996). Where does this data come from? yeh and why isn't there any UB40?

New to wiki, and not yet up to editing, so I'll just mention, someone might like to add Barley's use in herbal tea. Quoted from herbal tea: "roasted barley, known in Japanese as mugicha and Korean as horicha. The roasted flavor can be reminiscent of coffee (without coffee's bitterness and caffeine). It is often drunk cold in the summer."

[edit] pampas grass

--—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.3.195.236 (talk • contribs).

I guess this was meant to be a suggestion for the article, but I'm not clear what pampas grass has to do with barley. --Singkong2005 talk 11:32, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pearl barley?

There's no article for Pearled barley/Pearl barley.

For a start: http://www.foodsubs.com/GrainBarley.html looks like a good site for barley; also see http://www.cooking.com/advice/adgloss.asp?GlossType=ingr&Item=Pearl+barley

There's a number of references in Wikipedia, but mostly not linked. You can google "Pearl barley" and "Pearled barley".

--Singkong2005 talk 11:22, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Just when I wanted to add a comment on "pearled barley", I saw this comment =) Hmm... what is pearl(ed) barley? If we have 200 articles about all the Pokemons, we could have ay least have an article about Pearl barley. Or what do you think? Shandristhe azylean 20:54, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FAOSTAT links broken

The article first two references are broken links to the FAOSTAT website. I guess they're broken as it seems FAOSTAT changed the way their website is structured. I have yet to find (or produce) a table that shows total world rankings of crops. Attempting to choose all commodities and all countries in the commodities/countries page, results in exceeding the 4000 record free subscription limit. Any ideas how the links might be amended?

Tmanto 10:05, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Usage as an hyperaccumulator for aluminium

Barley is apparently excellent in treating soil contaminated by aluminium as noted on this article. --Khokkanen 22:46, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ag assessment

I've assessed this as only a Start because it is poorly cited, we need to improve the formating, there is no agronomy section, and the Production section is very limited. Marking this as needing attention at the Ag project's page.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 19:26, 15 October 2007 (UTC)