Talk:Bare: a pop opera

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I don't think you can definetly Jason as being homosexual because he does at all points in the play show self-identify as such and he definetly is depicted as being sexually active with both genders. 141.161.119.71 18:18, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

That only matters if you assume that sexual identity is defined by sexual activity. —Stu21202 01:32, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Cleanup 2 RE: Cleanup 3 Official Synopsis is a Copyright Violation 4 RE: Edits, Copyright Violation

[edit] Cleanup

I've cleaned this article up quite a bit. I removed the character descriptions and synopsis as copyvios -- though there was a note stating that they were "used with permission", I'd like to see some proof that they are licensed under the GFDL. I also cleaned up the infobox quite a bit -- most of those awards are non-notable redlinks and shouldn't be in the infobox. They should, however, be in the main body of the article. —  MusicMaker5376 15:44, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Cleanup

Page was reverted back to previous version. If one looks at the HISTORY of this page - it has had several edits made due to someone placing false information about future productions.

This page/entry has been maintained by members of the original production team of bare: the musical and bare: the album, with direct permission from the composer. Additional edits are completed by staff of Theatrical Rights Worldwide. Please do not edit this entry, as the information listed was approved and developed with direct consult from composer Damon Intrabartolo. All edits made by unknown parties will be undone.

Synopsis provided is the official synopsis from barethealbum.com and barethemusical.com and is reprinted with permission of composer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.101.107.223 (talk) 17:34, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Official Synopsis is a Copyright Violation

You may not copy the synopsis from the official site, unless the official site states that the copyright holder has released the synopsis into the Public Domain. On the contrary, however, the website states: "© You Pay Now Music, Inc." Copying the copyrighted synopsis into a Wikipedia article is a clear violation of U.S. copyright law and Wikipedia copyright rules. Please read WP:COPYVIO. This synopsis will be deleted from the article if you attempt to copy it into the article again. The synopsis section should be a summary written in the editor's own words that does not copy the official site's words. -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:31, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Edits, Copyright Violation

I am sorry for confusion surrounding my re-edits for bare: the musical today - however I handled the initial creation of this page at the request of the composer. We were unaware that it was alright for someone else to edit this material or decide what no longer can be placed on this page. We obviously want it to conform to wiki standards so I'm hoping for assistance - your recent message on here regarding copyright violation confused me. If the composer himself (owner of YouPayNow Music) came on here and reposted the synopsis, would that still be a copyright violation, as he is the one who specifically requested that synopsis to be placed on here and not any others (ie. a synopsis linked on StageAgent.) If YOUPAYNOW MUSIC is owned by the composer and the composer asks me to place an official synopsis on the wiki page (as opposed to the synopsis that is posted on StageAgent.) Advice is greatly appreciated, as there was already difficulty dealing with someone who was placing damaging mis-information about the show and the distributor of the rights to said show. Many thanks in advance.

You may want to read about the GFDL. Everything on Wikipedia is licensed under that particular copyright license, and it's basically a step above PD. Putting the synopsis on Wikipedia basically lets anyone use it in any way they see fit, so long as attribution is maintained. If the composer wants to license it that way, he still retains copyright and can still make money off his stuff -- but so can anyone else.

In my opinion, the best thing to do would be to simply write another synopsis -- it's the most expedient in terms of jumping through hoops. The composer can write it himself and just post it here. Or, the album's site can be altered to state that it's licensed under the GFDL. Those are the two easiest ways.

If you have any other questions, don't hesitate to ask -- either here or on one of our talk pages. —  MusicMaker5376 22:30, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! I read through it and will pass this info along to the right people to determine how they would like to proceed. I appreciate the information! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sinfonia98 (talk • contribs) 22:32, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Anytime. —  MusicMaker5376 22:35, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Also, please note that whatever synopsis does get posted here will be edited by other editors. Wikipedia is "the encyclopedia that anyone can edit." Basically, if the synopsis is not too long (I would shoot for a total of 750 words or so) and simply describes the events in the script, it should stick pretty well. For a good example of how we write synopses of musicals on Wikipedia, see: Hello, Dolly! (musical). Best regards, -- Ssilvers (talk) 13:41, 28 May 2008 (UTC)