Talk:Bardo Thodol
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1. the chikhai bardo or "bardo of the moment of death "
2. the chonyid bardo or "bardo of the experiencing of reality"
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The chikhai bardo features the experience of the "clear light of reality", or at least the nearest approximation to it of which one is spiritually capable.
The chonyid bardo features the experience of visions of various Buddha forms (or, again, the nearest approximations of which one is capable).
When comparing 1. and 2. with the two descriptions below, it appears that "chikhai" and "chonyid" have been mixed up. Maybe someone who is more knowledgable on the topic than I am will be able to clarify this.
- Seems there is no mixup.--Klimov 10:23, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
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- In short: I was wondering about why chonyid is referred to as ...reality under 2. , because the description for chikhai given in the paragraph below seems to makes the identical notion of ...reality although it is associated with ...death under 1.
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- Yes, it seems I did understand your concern correctly.
- It seems to me there is no mixup.--Klimov 10:23, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, it seems I did understand your concern correctly.
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[edit] Yidams
The section titled "Yidams" could benefit from some explanation. It sort of comes out of nowhere and isn't tied in any obvious way to the rest of the page. What are yidams, and what do they have to do with the Bardo Thodol? DuelinMarkers 04:21, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, seems to me also.--Klimov 10:55, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Fremantle (2001: p.20) states
It would be helpful to know who/what Fremantle is. There is no decent bibliography explaining this. Is it a book title, the author of a book(if so what book),...Ect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.200.168.35 (talk) 05:24, August 30, 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Cleanup
- The background information on this book is incomplete, as noted by the above comment. Since it's been several months with no appropriate changes made, I have added a cleanup tag. -Rolypolyman (talk) 03:55, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
- The information doesn't seem incomplete to me. This is an in print edition of the The Tibetan Book of the Dead: The Great Liberation Through Hearing in the Bardo, but of course is not authored, only translated by the named due to its traditional nature.
81.99.156.250 (talk) 00:27, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- In Fact the full reference for Fremantle 2001 is given in the references list, but it is difficult to find because that list is not alphabetical by author, and one is misled by looking at the other Fremantle title. I hesitate to intervene, but suggest the list of full references should be rearranged to be alphabetical by author, for ease of reference. Eebahgum (talk) 01:25, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
It would be helpful if searching for 'Tibetan Book Of The Dead' led to this page. Can anyone make it happen? --77.250.154.137 (talk) 19:27, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
