Talk:Barcelona Metro
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will be the longest metro line in Europe at 42.6km and with 46 stations.
Isn't the Central Line (54.84km from Epping to West Ruislip) longer? Or does this claim refer to mainland Europe, or some other qualification that L9/10 has but not the Central Line? edd 16:12, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- I don't know anything much about the London Underground, but is the Central Line perhaps partially above-ground? The 'longest metro line in Europe' claim comes from the ca:Metro de Barcelona in the Catalan Viquipèdia, so I'm unsure of its provenance. --Ngb 16:35, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- It is above ground for most of its length (West Ruislip to White City and then from Leyton to Epping), but it is definately a metro line... edd 09:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- I've edited the article so that it says L9/10 will be the longest underground metro line in Europe as this seems unquestionable. (Actually, though, that assumes L9/10 is to be all-underground, which is unclear from the source.) --Ngb 11:59, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- L9/10 will be elevated through the idustrial area of zona franca, don't know how far but it's not all-underground.
- I've edited the article so that it says L9/10 will be the longest underground metro line in Europe as this seems unquestionable. (Actually, though, that assumes L9/10 is to be all-underground, which is unclear from the source.) --Ngb 11:59, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- It is above ground for most of its length (West Ruislip to White City and then from Leyton to Epping), but it is definately a metro line... edd 09:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] L9 color
What color will L9 be?? Orange seems most likely per process or elimination. Georgia guy 01:16, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Colours of lines
I got the following colours from an official ATM map: Physchim62 (talk) 14:25, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Metro lines – TMB | |
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L1 | Hospital de Bellvitge Fondo |
L2 | Paral·lel Pep Ventura |
L3 | Zona Universitària Canyelles |
L4 | Trinitat Nova La Pau |
L5 | Cornellà Centre Horta |
L11 | Trinitat Nova Can Cuiàs |
Tram lines | |
T1 | Francesc Macià Bon Viatge |
T2 | Francesc Macià Sant Martí de l'Erm |
T3 | Francesc Macià Consell Comarcal |
T4 | Estació de Sant Adrià Ciutadella Vila Olímpica |
T5 | Glòries Besòs |
Funicular railways | |
Paral·lel Parc de Montjuïc |
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Vallvidrera-Inferior Vallvidrera-Superior |
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Pl. del Funicular Tibidabo |
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Suburban railways – FGC | |
L6 | Barcelona - Pl. Catalunya Reina Elisenda |
L7 | Barcelona - Pl. Catalunya Av. Tibidabo |
L8 | Barcelona - Pl. Espanya Moli Nou-Ciutat Cooperativa |
S1 | Barcelona - Pl. Catalunya Terrassa |
S2 | Barcelona - Pl. Catalunya Sabadell |
S33 | Barcelona - Pl. Espanya Can Ros |
S4 | Barcelona - Pl. Espanya Olesa de M. |
S5 | Barcelona - Pl. Catalunya Sant Cugat-Rubí |
S55 | Barcelona - Pl. Catalunya Universitat Autònoma |
S8 | Barcelona - Pl. Espanya Martorell-Enllaç |
R5 | Barcelona - Pl. Espanya Manresa |
R6 | Barcelona - Pl. Espanya Igualada |
Suburban railways – Renfe | |
R1 | L'Hospitalet Mataró / Maçanet |
R2 | St. Vincenç / Vilanova Maçanet |
R3 | L'Hospitalet Vic |
R4 | St. Vincenç / Vilanova Manresa |
R7 | L'Hospitalet Cerdanyola Universitat / Martorell |
R10 | Barcelona Aeroport |
That's a pretty cool template, but it would be even nicer if you could adapt it so you make the numbers/names of the lines and the names of the stations clickable so you can be redirected to their pages.
For instance:
- Fondo metro station or Paral·lel metro station (Written as Fondo, Paral·lel)
- Barcelona metro line 1 or Barcelona metro line 11 (Written as L1, L11, following the convention used in the official Barcelona metro map)
Kitten86 23:48, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Otherwise you're redirected to the pages concerning the Besòs river, the hill of Montjuïc or the thoroughfare called Passeig de Gràcia instead of the station (just to name a few examples). 8)
Kitten86 23:50, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Also (and excuse me for adding so many comments), the FGC L series should be listed together as metro lines, separated from the suburban lines that have an S in their name. Kitten86 23:52, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Names
Following the pattern of (e.g.) Berri-UQAM (Montreal Metro) and Cité (Paris Métro), I'd like to suggest that we move the station pages to (e.g.) Liceu (Barcelona Metro). This makes for easier disambiguation and allows us to use the pipe trick. - Montréalais 18:14, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
- Qualified agree. With a few exceptions (principally London, which uses eg Oxford Circus tube station), this bracketed diasmbiguation style of naming rapid transit stations seems to be the norm. But I think the name needs to make clear we are talking about a station, which this proposal doesn't. So I would suggest either (e.g) Liceu station (Barcelona Metro) or Liceu (Barcelona Metro station). My only other comment is that by using a disambiguation style like this, you need to be aware of many Wikipedian's dislike of 'preemptive disambiguation'. So if you were to rename a station to xyz (Barcelona Metro) and there wasn't already an article called xyz, you may get reverted on the grounds this is premptive disambiguation. -- Chris j wood 10:39, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
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- Thanks for your input! I understand your comment regarding the word "station," but I think it may be a bit excessive: the other examples I give don't do it, and I can't really think of what else a proper noun would be in reference to a metro system. - Montréalais 15:17, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
-It makes sense. Maybe we should use the most general pattern, as in Montréal or Paris. It's actually much better since there are other subway systems, both present and planned, which use Catalan as its official language (Palma de Mallorca, Sabadell, Terrassa...) and may have stations with the same or very similar names. Kitten86 00:35, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- Good point. (There are also a few near-disambs with other systems, such as Tetuán/Plaza de España/Urgel in Madrid and Tetuan/Espanya/Urgell in Barcelona.) In a few days I'll start changing things over.
- As another point, I note that of late, TMB has been writing composed stations with a pipe rather than a dash: Ciutadella | Vila Olímpica. As this would obviously cause problems with our links, I plan to stay with hyphens for the article titles: Ciutadella-Vila Olímpica. Besides, it seems to me to be more in the nature of a typographical idiosyncracy rather than serious punctuation. - Montréalais 17:38, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- Goody. I can start changing some things over now I have some time LOL Kitten86 19:43, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] The sources are false
The sources listed are old and incorrect, the news article about line 9 from 2000 is inacurate, the other article from 2002 is also inacurate. The new line 9/10 has gone through several redesigns since that article and the other lines to, here is a link to a offcial page from October 2007 that states the L9 will be 46,6 km http://www.atm-transmet.org/cat/apartado3/apart3_011.htm. And the line is still going through redesigns acording to this article published 29-03-2008 (spanish) http://www.elperiodico.com/default.asp?idpublicacio_PK=46&idioma=CAS&idnoticia_PK=495745&idseccio_PK=1022&h=