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Will this do? Sakurambo 00:53, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] This page is very lacking
As a barber I have watched this page with a bit of dissapointment since my starting "barber school". There is very little elaboration on tools and impliments. In fact, save straight razor they seem to have been neglected altogether. Also, there is no mention of services commonly provided.
Services Commonly Provided
Haircut
Ear-and-Neck Shave
Face Shave
Facial uuuu Scalp Tonic
Tools and Impliments
Shears (scissors)
Razor
Hone
Strop
Clippers
Edgers (A smaller clipper usually used to outline the perimeter of the haircut)(
Sanitizer (the most commonly seen sanitizers in this day and age is the wet sanitizer. Most barber board require them to be covered making the jar the most common wet sanitizer. The precursor was the dry sanitizer which involved placing the impliments into a fumigate cabinet usually made of glass and filling it with a formeldahyde gas which was accomplished a number of different ways)
Barber Chair (this definitely deserves it's own unique definition it is much different from the all too common styling chair in function and in purpose)
I didn't have a chance to complete the list, I will modify it later.
BTW, the barber pole definition is true. Even if it's not true there is no proof otherwise and this has been believe by barbers as far back as A.B. Moler the author of the first standard barbering textbook and likely further back then that. So dispute is essentially pointless. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.109.2.142 (talk) 19:10, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Barber Pole?
I've always heard that the red stripe represented blood (rather than blood-stained bandages) and the white either represented cleanliness (rather than clean bandages) or was simply a good, visible contrast to the red.
The explanation about hanging bandages on a pole seems a little far-fetched. Why would a barber hang clean bandages from a pole with dirty ones? For that matter, why would a barber hang clean bandages from pole at all? They're clean. Maybe the barber pole predates the knowledge of germs, but it doesn't predate the knowledge of clean vs. dirty. Obviously, if the barbers were taking the trouble to wash them and hang them to dry, they wouldn't want to let them get the new bandages dirty.
Sometimes a symbol is just a symbol, and isn't based on an actual event. (For instance, I doubt the symbol of the griffin in heraldry came from somebody meeting a lion with an eagle's head.)
The posted explanation doesn't make any sense if you think about it from a realistic perspective. I'm not going to change it or anything, and I'm not an expert on barbers, but I think that part is pretty iffy. Kafziel 19:12, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
On second thought, I am going to change it, since the article was started by an anonymous IP address anyway. I'll wait a few days to see if anyone has any suggestions. Kafziel 19:23, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
The bit about the origins of the barber's pole sounds iffy to me too, but a quick Google shows that everyone else seems to believe this too. Of course, this may be the same bit of information being duplicated everywhere. Anyhow, I wouldn't change it without further documented research. --Iacobus 03:13, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
- Since the original claim was not documented I've removed it. Given the clear flaws in this claim (why would someone hang dirty stuff up with clean stuff if they're all going to get tangled up?). Also would you really keep your leaches and blood in the same basin? Sounds a bit bizaree to me since presemuably you'd want your leeches to be hungry. I don't know if leeches take up blood in a basin but even if they don't it sounds to me like you risk 'drowning' them in blood. All in all sounds a rather flawed claim and without further evidence or references, I don't think it's worth mentioning. If you do find a reliable reference, I would suggest you still mention it as a theory not a fact. Nil Einne 20:29, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Barber Pole Claim is True
It is actually documented in my text book. Milady's Standard Barbering Textbook, pretty much the only current text book in exsistance on the subject in North America. - DoobieEx
[edit] Barbers & Barbarians
"It is from the Roman (Latin) word 'barba', meaning beard, that the word 'barber' is derived - and hence 'barbarians' as the name used during that period to describe tribes who were bearded."
This is a false etymology. "Barbarian" comes from the Greek words barbaros, meaning "foreign speaker", and barbarizein, "to speak like a foreigner". The word did come into English via Latin (as did most Greek words), but has no connection with the native Latin word barba. (see any standard dictionary, such as the Shorter Oxford)
I have therefore removed the above text from the article. --Iacobus 02:42, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
- I am removing the link to barbarian in the see also section--Lehk 03:32, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Any type of hair?
"someone whose occupation is to cut any type of hair" - is this really the case? Nose hair, pubic, ...? Animals', dead bodies' ?
Barbers may cut any type of hair. It is not prohibited by law, but because of the nature of their clinical training they generally prefer mens hair. The only services a barber cannot perform that a cosmetologist may perform in the state of West Virginia at least is a manicure and permanent waving. Although the only barber school in the state doesn't offer a barbering course that exlcudes permanent waving. Refer to the West Virginia State Code for verification if you want to include this. - DoobieEx
[edit] Englishmen
"In Ireland it was enacted that, in order to be recognised as an Englishman, a man must have all the hair above his mouth shaven"
Should this be "under his mouth"? Englishmen with goatees and shaved heads?
[edit] You've neglected eyebrow & signature!!!!
Please note that tonsorial redirects here. Is there a way to write it into the article??
Thank You,
[[ hopiakuta Please do sign your signature on your message. ~~ Thank You. -]] 00:20, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Closed on Mondays
Does anyone know why traditionally barbershops were closed on Mondays? I have heard it was because of the "strong arm" of the barber's union that forced towns to implement legislation prohibiting barbershops from doing business on Sundays and Mondays. Any truth to that?--207.206.136.106 (talk) 21:35, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
