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I'm not too sure about my phrasing of "Farmers" to include homesteaders, nesters, and ranchers using enclosed ranges. See here for more info:

http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/view/FF/auf1.html

Ben Brumfield

By "soft spans" do you mean "short spans"? -phma

I thought Lucien B. Smith invented it? i ave a book in fornt of me saying he did.

1 Type of Post
2 Barbed wire in professional wrestling
3 Identity of demonstrator
4 Fencing humans
5 Ellwood

[edit] Type of Post

In the western United States we often use Incense Cedar (pseudosuga taxifolia)for fence post material. In particular, we use the core of the tree and receive the benifit of the toxic quality of the wood to repel inscects.

Regards, Edwin Dyer

historiacally native tress, such as poplar were used in Canada, softwoods are perferable though, ceder and spruce are common. In Montana expence of wood has lead to the use of steel posts.

Brett Knoss

[edit] Barbed wire in professional wrestling

Probably doesn't belong in the article. It probably needs to be a part of an article about professioanl wrestling instread. Pschemp | Talk 16:37, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

I saw the match in question on PPV and I can say with confidence that JBL did indeed 'test' the barbwire with his forearm (he wasn't actually cut I don't think) with a scared look on his face (probably all kayfabed even though the barbwire was real)

[edit] Identity of demonstrator

Pete McManus is said to have demonstrated barbed-wire in Alamo Square, San Antonio, Texas in 1876. The demonstration showing cattle restrained by the new kind of fencing was followed immediately by invitations to the Menger Hotel to place orders. Within 25 years, nearly all of the open range had been fenced in under private ownership.

Various web bios [1] of John "Bet-a-million" Gates say he is the one who, as a saleman for Glidden's barbed wire, set up the pen. I'm thinking "Pete McManus" is not the correct name here. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by StanZegel (talk • contribs) 14:16, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fencing humans

During the Soviet-Afghan War, the accommodation of Afghan refugees into Pakistan was controlled in Pakistan's largest province, Balochistan, under General Rahimuddin Khan, by making the refugees stay for controlled durations in barbed wire camps.

The sentence above needs a reference supplied before inclusion in the article. It is not a unique example, we just need to be more careful about specfiing the source of our additions. --Blainster 20:29, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ellwood

You cannot really discuss barbed wire without mentioning, Isaac L. Ellwood and probably Jacob Haish. Glidden and Ellwood partnered on the barbed wire venture because they both held patents on it, I am not entirely sure how Haish was involved, but he was.

Haish's patent is linked at the end of the article. More detail might take some digging. --Blainster 22:07, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Also I think this article could use some reorganization, maybe some different subheads and some text moved around, what do you folks think? A mcmurray 17:49, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

It is difficult to comment without knowing what you have in mind re: organizing. How would you respond if someone else asked the same question? Either explain what you want to do if you think it's a big change, or just be bold and take a stab at it. --Blainster 22:07, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

A history section describing the development in the DeKalb area would be good to add, with the contributions of Rose, Haish, Ellwood, and Glidden. --Blainster 16:33, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Didn't mean to fall off on this one, just got occupied with other tasks. I will try to do a review of the article soon and post a to do list or something, maybe an improvement drive is warranted, considering the importance of barbed wire.A mcmurray 22:49, 23 February 2007 (UTC)