Talk:Barbecue sauce

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I feel this article is slightly POV. While it is true that most commercial 'BBQ' sauces sold as condiment in the store are tomato-based, when it comes to the actual cooking meat part of BBQ tastes vary widely. I added a comment about vinegar and mustard based sauces which are often used in the American South. I think the part about sugar being important could be edited as this is not NPOV. Perhaps we could divide it up by different countries and regions as to what type of sauce is prefered? I could do some research on the South but I don't know what is used in other countries besides the USA. Kfort 3 July 2005 21:58 (UTC)

I thought some more about this article. The thing is that the Barbecue main article has terrific information on regional variations of sauces. I think there are two things meant by 'barbecue sauce'. One is a sauce used while cooking meat to impart certain flavors and characteristics onto the meat. The other is a condiment that is used like ketchup with a slightly tangier taste. I think this article should cover the latter, and link to the main Barbecue article for information about the former. Let me know what you think. If noone has any objections I may rewrite this article to reflect these differences. Kfort 3 July 2005 23:42 (UTC)

I disagree with the schema proposed above. Although the sauces are used while cooking and after, they are essentially the same recipes. So your proposed revision would get rid of valuable regional information. I updated the article to reflect regional differences, and took out all the sugar references which are too obscure an issue for an article of several paragraphs. jkandell, oct 2005.

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[edit] Recipe

I added an example recipe that I made myself and loved. How can you have an article about BBQ sauce without an example recipe? The recipe is my own, and is not copyrighted. I made a web page designed only for use here (http://www.freewebs.com/barbequesauce)

This is WP:SPAM, violates WP:EL or WP:NOT. Probably all three; i removed it. JoeSmack Talk(p-review!) 18:01, 30 September 2006 (UTC)


Disagree, this is not WP:SPAM, as it is providing further encyclopedic information, it does not violate WP:EL as it contains information that is "accurate and on-topic" and does not violate WP:NOT as it is only one generic recipe, and does not turn the article into a "Mere collection of external links or Internet directory". Therefore, I insist that this link is re-added. 217.44.51.47 22:43, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Ask WT:EL or WT:NOT if you feel that way. People can google for recipes if they want em. The 'one-link-won't-hurt' approach doesn't work after 20 recipes get tacked to this article. Or, as an example, look at Chicken#External_links - it's not covered in various chicken recipes. If you want though there is a Wikimedia Cookbook section of wikibooks. JoeSmack Talk 23:45, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Memphis Sauces

Is there a way to describe barbecue sauces from the Memphis, Tennessee area?--BigMac1212 00:57, 19 November 2006 (UTC) If you can describe it, try tacking on a sentence or two in the appropriate place. Whitebox 21:07, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

The note on Memphis barbecue sounds highly POV, and is fairly unhelpful, the general consensus being the Memphis has no particular style. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.143.246.84 (talk) 19:44, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Distinction

I think a distinction needs to be made between "sauce you mix up to put on food you intend to barbeque" and "sauce flavored like barbequed food, to be applied to non-barbequed food (e.g. burgers, macaroni and cheese, fried chicken), which would be terrible to put ON food-to-be-barbequed." People deride the latter as doing a bad job of being the former, when it isn't intended to be any more than ketchup is trying to be spaghetti sauce.

It might be that marinade and bbq sauce are the differences you are going for, but in different regions both are put directly on grilled foods. And then there are artificially bbq flavored chips too. Whitebox 05:46, 27 June 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Us Centric

It seems this is still Us centric, especially towards the South. Who said it wasn't any more? --72.137.47.204 09:18, 1 December 2007 (UTC)