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[edit] Move to Barbary Macaque?

  • Support: Although "Barbary Ape" is common, it is also misleading; They are not apes, but macaques. Barbary Ape should of course redirect to this article, and noted as an alternate name in the text. Tom Radulovich 23:23, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
  • support - I'm good with this. But plase put move requests only on the talk and not on the article itself. - UtherSRG (talk) 00:08, August 15, 2005 (UTC)
  • weak oppose. "Barbary ape" returns twice the number of google hits; use the most common name. Eugene van der Pijll 20:19, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
    Sometimes, this is not a good thing. It would be better to be correct and in the minority, than wrong and common. Mammal Species of the World lists this species as "Barbary Macaque", and it is the leading authority on mammals. The Primate section was written by Colin Groves, one of the leading authorities on primates. Should we choose Google over an actual primatologist? - UtherSRG (talk) 20:50, August 15, 2005 (UTC)
    That's basically what "Most common" seems to mean: not at the most correct name, according to the specialists; but at the name that is most often used. BTW, the OED 1st ed., one of the leading authorities on the English language, only has "barbary ape". Eugene van der Pijll 21:13, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names) offers the caveat: "In cases where the common name of a subject is misleading (For example: "tidal wave" would be a misleading title since these phenomena have nothing to do with tides), then it is sometimes reasonable to fall back on a well-accepted alternative (tsunami, for example)." This is one of these instances. Tom Radulovich 05:33, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Support --Yath 19:52, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

This article has been renamed after the result of a move request. Dragons flight 07:30, August 21, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Just Curious

What they eat during winter?--Menah the Great 01:34, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Appearance

the monkey's size as stated in this article (6,5m, 10ft, or whatever) is absolutely, incredibly wrong! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.23.5.93 (talk) 12:37, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Fixed (before you even finished your comment). - UtherSRG (talk) 14:27, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Monkey Mayhem

Is "monkey mayhem" an accepted term for their forays into town? It ostensibly sounds silly to me. SirGrotius 15:16, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tunnel to Gibraltar?

I read in a highly unreliable source (a jehovas wittness free booklet, fwiw) that these monkies came to gibraltar through a now lost secret tunnel connecting gibraltar and africa. Is there any reliable source that can corroborate that this story exists, and is sufficiently well known to merit mention in the articel. -- 82.181.254.50 (talk) 14:59, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

I most seriously doubt it. More likely is that they took advantage of one or more periods when there was a dry-land connection between Morocco and Spain, and the Mediterranean was a series of disconnected lakes. AnonMoos (talk) 23:45, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
However, there's something about the story at Gibraltar_Barbary_Macaques#Myth. -- AnonMoos (talk) 23:53, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
A tunnel, that sounds less likely than them walking over before Hercules seperated the Pillars. Do this modern day fountains of myth have any explanations for why there was a skull of one in Ireland? A tunnel to Avalon and a quick boat ride maybe? Or maybe it was a Jesus monkey and walked. Do you have any actual sources for these popular beliefs? Cheap tourist book or something? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.137.207.191 (talk) 17:43, 3 April 2008 (UTC)