Talk:BarCamp
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I'm collecting notes on the general phenomenon, I just don't know that it has a name yet!
"Geek Camps" I think Wired magazine called them.
Collecting notes for the article on RecentChangesCamp:SimilarMeetings, feel free to write it yourself; may these notes be useful to you!
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[edit] Revision Note
I've just substantially overhauled this article, with sincere apologies to the original authors and editors. But, it was marked for deletion, with most votes leaning against, based on its failure to conform to Wikipedia standards of neutral point of view (POV) -- "horribly POV'ed advertisement for an organisation," was how one person put it -- and a lack of reliable sources. I thought it best to address those concerns directly, without raising the hackles of the community. Namaste. Latrippi 04:46, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Press coverage... sorta
The AfD made the news -- I'm not sure whether to post it here, or at the archived AfD. First time I've ever seen the deletion discussion of an article get mainstream press attention. JDoorjam Talk 19:58, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
- I posted it here for more people to see. - Ganeshk (talk) 20:22, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
- Fascinating! Slightly different version (the original?) here. Latrippi 03:35, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
- Also now on the BarCamp weblog (of course!), What would Wikipedia be like minus BarCamp?. Latrippi 03:59, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Actually, the SanFran Chronicle loves the AfD. They also covered the AfD of some stereotype SanFran residents have, sort of the hippy image. -- Zanimum 12:47, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] for a deeper history
i added some more dept to the history of this practices, of course they had different names across decades: as far as i can witness back in 1996 there were hackmeeting in italy, attended also by international hackers. in case you want to know more don't hesitate to participate to this discussion, i also contacted the spanish hackmeeting community as they are doing something similar since 1998. jaromil 10:41, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
- user Tantek reverted my modification motivating: "(reverted to previous version, none of the BarCamp founders had heard of "italian hackmeeting", claims of direct heritage are spurious at best. also removed inaccurate "and response to".)" - later user VBertola referred to IETF's BoF sessions and testified hackmeetings in Europe. Let me add that the fact that self-proclamated barcamp founders (a concept by itself contrary to the underlying concept of openness) don't know about similar practices before it is not by itself a proof that the practice of "barcamping" is not a branding of earlier practices which, for completeness of a wikipedia article, should be mentioned and referred to jaromil 14:28, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
- As a BarCamp co-founder, I would concur with Tantek's revision. We actually had very little knowledge of open space or of previous hacker gatherings when we decided to organize BarCamp; the whole point was to fork FOO Camp, which was a closed, invite-only event, and turn it open. Open source has very strong appreciation for prior art and for respecting ideas like copyright -- self-proclaiming the foundation of an event is not in any way contrary to the idea of openness -- to the contrary, the point is to know where ideas came from and to cite them as inspiration or influence whenever derivative works are created. A small number of us did explicitly create BarCamp as a response to FOO Camp; I'm not sure how similar but unknown practices belong in this article. I'd appreciate it if you would elaborate.
[edit] Added section headers
In response to a "needs sections!" alert posted at the top of the page, I've added section headers and reorganized the text to flow better with them, and made a few minor edits. I labeled the disputed section under discussion above "historical precedents" and left it untouched, though as a discussion of unconscious/unknown precedents, it could be expanded for historical accuracy and breadth. Latrippi 05:54, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Reference/External link Suggestion
I've collected the most useful resources to run BarCamps. I'd like to suggest the article as a reference/external link. Before editing the page I thought to get feedback in the discussion page. Here's the link. I'd like to point out that the destination website does not host any kind of advertising and it is merely informative. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tojulius (talk • contribs) 15:50, 24 February 2008 (UTC) Tojulius (talk) 16:17, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
- this site (eventmanagerblog.com) does not load. --Scott.kelley (talk) 04:46, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
It does load on my pc could you describe the type of error you're having?--62.123.59.144 (talk) 16:35, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- It loads now. This site does have a good collection of links. Go ahead and add it! --Scott.kelley (talk) 19:08, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
