Talk:Bantu Men's Social Centre

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[edit] Welcome

Welcome to the talk page of The Bantu Men's Social Centre. Introduction and title created. DocDee 18:27, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] To add

"He did, also, go frequently to the YMCA, and its affiliate the Bantu Mens' Social Club, at No 1 Eloff Street." Source Is it affiliated with the YMCA from the start? Lsjzl 18:40, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Good question; my sources indicate a link, but does not explain the nature of the affiliation. I will try and find out. DocDee 18:47, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
  • D.D.T. Jabavu wrote: "One solution is suggested by the activities of the Rev. Ray Phillips in establishing the Johannesburg Bantu Men's Social Centre that provides for the African progressive men just what the great Y.M.C.A. centres in America do for Coloured men and women." The Segregation Fallacy and Other Papers, 1928 DocDee 18:58, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
  • I have come across some possible links: a. the Jan H. Hofmeyr School of Social Work for black Africans was housed in the Social Centre building between 1941 and 1947; b. Max Yergan, and African-American who organized on behalf of the YMCA in South Africa, had envisioned such training for black Africans in 1932; c. a building constructed under Yergan's initiative at Fort Hare was sold and the funds used for the Jan H. Hofmeyr School of Social Work; d. the School was initially started to train social workers for the YMCA. See Alan Cobley's book in the reference section of the article for detail.

[edit] Category

I'm not convinced about my categorization. If someone knows more about the group and can put it in the correct place... Thanks Lsjzl 18:33, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

  • OK, since they have closed I put a category up for now about the History of RSA. At least that gives the article one category now! Lsjzl 16:56, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Is this place still operating? What is the current status of it? Lsjzl 03:53, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

  • The University of the Witwatersrand has records dating from 1923–1975, but I am not sure whether 1975 represents the date at which the Centre ceased to exist. DocDee 05:08, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
  • The Centre was forced to shut down on December 31, 1971, after which the West Rand Administration Board occupied the building. DocDee 16:41, 20 June 2006 (UTC)