Talk:Banknotes of the Hungarian forint

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[edit] Unexpected use.

The 20Ft banknote is a well-known homosex pride symbol. A lot of it was exported privately to North America in the 90s to serve as a kind of membership card for gays. 195.70.48.242 10:29, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Két" on banknotes

In his edit, User:Ninthroad added this claim about current banknotes:

It is interesting to mention that the new denominations of two hundred and two thousand HUF, have the informal way of writing the number 'two'. While 'kettő' is considered formal, the banknotes use 'két', an abrriviated version.

This is wrong. The rule for "két" versus "kettő" is that "két" is to be used as a quantifier, that is, when it stands before a noun as if it was an adjective, and also inside compound numbers like "kétszáz" (200) and with the suffix "szer"; while "kettő" everywhere else, that is, when it is alone in the place of a noun in any grammatical case. "Kettő" is sometimes used in speech to avoid confusion with "hét" (7) in a noisy environment, possibly inside compund numerals.

Tótfalusi István, Magyar nyelvhelyességi kéziszótár (1997, Merényi Könyvkiadó, Budapest) confirms that while "kettő" is sometimes used in place of "két" for reasons of emphasis, the rule is strict so this is to be considered an error. Thus, while "kettő" could be considered more formal by some speakers, it is not. The book also mentions that "kettő" is used to avoid the confusion between "két" and "hét" on, for example, postal cheques. Confusion, however, is obviously not a concern on the banknotes where the word is printed and is in all uppercase.

I know of no recent prior example on the usage of "két" or "kettő" on banknotes, as previous Forint banknotes did not have denominations of 2 or 200 or 2000 forints, and coins only have the value written by numeral; but according to our article, pengő banknotes had "két" on them.

As a result, I think that it is normal, not interesting, that the banknotes use "két", so I will revert the edits. If you know otherwise, please edit the article and/or discuss here. – b_jonas 17:41, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Current series

The table about current banknotes is quite outdated. I belive it should be updated using the hungarian article as the primary source. That's a bit complicated though, because you have to upload the images from hu.wikipedia. I may or may not be doing part or all of this work in the future. – b_jonas 09:18, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

I'll start to make the new table in a my talk page so that I don't mess up the page meanwhile. Let me thank DarkFalls from freenode who has volunteered to upload the images. – b_jonas 10:19, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

I've put the new table here now. I haven't translated the text and relevant footnotes from the hungarian article, even though that would be advantagous as well. – b_jonas 20:51, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Painter of 2000 forint note

The table in this article used to claim that the painting on 2000 forint note issued in 1998 was painted by Géza Dósa, while the one in the hungarian article claims that it's painted by Viktor Madarász. According to the articles about the two painters, they are not the same person. I will edit the article to claim the painting is by Viktor Madarász, because the small text on the banknote says "MADARÁSZ V. PINX". If anyone has information supporting that the painter was Géza Dósa, please mention it here and possibly edit the article. Thanks, – b_jonas 18:05, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:HUF 100 1946 obverse3.jpg

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:HUF 100 1946 reverse3.jpg

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:HUF 100 1992 obverse.jpg

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