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[edit] Stop 'N' Swop

I noticed that it says the unreachable areas of B-K are not shown at all, and this is not true: in the same room as Captain Blackeye, there is a picture of Sharkfood Island and a picture of the Mystery Egg that is found in it.

[edit] Banjo-Kazooie 3

"Rareware, which was purchased from Nintendo by Microsoft in 2002 to make games for Microsoft Game Studios, has since admitted it is developing another follow-up in the Banjo-Kazooie series for the Xbox 360." - Do we have a source/citation for that? Freddie42 16:09, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Now we do --Dallin Tanjo22 19:46, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hey

This game is fairly unique for a sequel, you start with every single skill you can learn in Banjo-Kazooie Mentiont that somewhere? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Phred (talk • contribs) .

[edit] B.O.B.

Any relation the the Outkast song? Any? At all? --86.12.235.7 22:02, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Outkast had a song called "Big-O-Blaster"?? --SaturnYoshi 06:38, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Safe from Banjo-Kazooie?

It says in the article the safe from Banjo-Kazooie returns and can actually be opened. WTF? Is it Superstash Deluxe? Since when was he in B-K? Matty-chan 11:11, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

139.168.76.175 02:21, 12 December 2006 (UTC) B.O.B - Outkast doesn't stand for Big - o - blaster; it stands for Bombs Over Baghdad. listen to the lyrics. spoken in plain english.

[edit] Banjo-Kazooie on the Xbox 360

Looks like it's been officially announced... --(trogga) 17:49, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Innuendos

I'm suprised no one made a part of this article featuring this stuff. Should I just go ahead and do it?-Lord Lonic

What do you mean by innuendos? --pIrish 01:48, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Are you talking about the Jolly and Maggie characters? -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 02:15, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Yes, aswell as several other innuendos, such as a phallic shaped rock that appears in Pterridactyal Land and the "Suck" and "Blow" buttons on the B.O.B. Heck, there are even more. Check them out on YouTube-Lord Lonic
You missed the word "ESRA" in the Code Chamber (write it out backwards!). On the other hand, don't you think you might be reading a tad too much into the rock in Terrydactyland? RobbieG 17:22, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Ersa is a greek goddess —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.140.136.43 (talk) 01:28, 29 April 2007 (UTC).
Yes, but "Esra" is not. RobbieG 17:59, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Oops, sorry. I read it wrong 69.140.136.43 19:51, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Date from Safe in Cloud Cuckooland

I was just playing Banjo-Tooie, and in Cloud Cuckooland you have to find the combination for a safe, which then opens and gives you a jiggy. The combinations turns out to be 1984, which "is a real Rare date," to quote the safe. I figured this was the year Rare was founded...but the Rare (company) page says it was founded in 1982. They were known as Ultimate back then, but I get the impression that the name wasn't changed until well after 1984. Any idea what significance 1984 has? Thanks! --pie4all88 05:57, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Original research

The text

"The bosses are each introduced with a humorous title, a parody of The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time."

was deleted from the article by User:PIrish on the grounds that "the zelda one in particular sounds a lot like original research to me". I don't think this falls under original research, any more than the other articles that mention references to works in popular culture do. OK, so I can't remember anyone saying that the boss descriptions resembled those of Zelda bosses, but they do anyway. N64 Zelda bosses were always introduced with subtitles like "Parisitic armored arachnid" and "Subterranean lava dragon". Things like "Despotic dizzy totem god" and "Strange wobbly inflatable thing" are a clear parody of this. RobbieG 21:26, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

A parody that you came to the conclusion about. That's what original research is. It's something that you, or anyone else, came up with on their own. Anything that isn't considered original research can be cited with an outside reference from a reliable source. You simply saying that it is a parody doesn't make it so. If you find a reliable source for the information, I will not refute the edit and it can remain in the article. Until then, please do not reinsert it because, as it is, it is currently based on assumption, not fact. Thank you.
As to your other edits, I didn't think the cutscene one was particularly necessary (didn't hurt the article, but it didn't really help either; it's just another piece of trivia). However, I should not have reverted the black comedy one or the spelling fix. Sorry about that. --pIrish 22:03, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
No problem. Do we have a reliable source for the claims made regarding Puftup or Speccy's hat? They are of a similar nature. Also, can you provide examples of other games that introduce the bosses in that manner? When I played Banjo-Tooie I thought it was an obvious Zelda reference, but that's simply because I haven't played any other games that give the bosses those kinds of titles. RobbieG 14:51, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
To be honest, most of the cameos and cultural references section needs to be deleted. I've not particularly wanted to tackle it because I know it could cause controversy if all of a sudden I deleted ten points of random, useless trivia that someone else may not think is useless. I'm also a bit hesitant to delete some of them because it's been a while since I've played the game and I'm not sure which cameos are actually in the game or not. However, the ones you specifically brought up are ones that should be deleted, no questions about it.
The parody may be there (I won't deny it, many games have onscreen boss titles, but the descriptions aren't usually creative or even existent), but, unless Rare released something specific about it, it's all just guessing and assumption, which is considered original research. Otherwise, if we had a reliable source for it, I wouldn't really care at all. --pIrish 15:39, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Hey, great work there with that section. Thank you so much. It looks great now! --pIrish 20:26, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, I'm glad you like it. It may need a little more work doing, as it's still a tad list-like, at least to my mind. RobbieG 22:38, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps, but you can't deny that it is a significant improvement from what it was before, which is at least a good, strong start in the right direction. --pIrish 01:33, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bottle's Revenge?

Shouldn't proper credits be given to Ice Mario (RareWitchProject.com) for finding Bottle's Revenge? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.137.98.184 (talk) 00:08, 3 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] This is a little grim for a kids' game, isn't it?

What with bottles dying and Grunty's exposed skeleton and severed head... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.140.136.43 (talk) 01:05, 29 April 2007 (UTC).

Yes, the article does note that many of the themes are quite dark. It's all in good fun, though, and very tongue-in-cheek. RobbieG 17:57, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
You'll notice there are a few rather unsavoury references throughout also (mainly in level 4)... I can help but wonder whether Rare was trying to see just how far they could push their luck with that sort of thing. -81.156.50.138 19:45, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot 05:31, 16 September 2007 (UTC)