Talk:Bangle-butt

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I think that "bangle-butt" is a pejorative term, and the more widely accepted word for this design feature is "stepped trunk" I believe the first car to feature this was the volvo S60 or S80.

(RoversDad) I agree -- Volvo did it earlier (perhaps Bangle worked there before). And the "stepping" along the sides is aerodynamic -- that's why it's showing up on other cars. "Bangle-Butt" refers to the way in which the trunk lid styling is not integrated into the rest of the trunk. This is best viewed from the rear, as opposed to the sides. The fact that the seam between the lid and the rear may be at the bottom of the "step" along the sides simply adds to the way in which the lid does not seem to "fit", but does not define "Bangle-Butt". Also, the picture demonstrating this bad sense of style should have been the first car it appeared on, and the worst case of it (since cleaned up a bit, thus admitting the mistake), the 7 series.

I think it looks very much like the back end of the Citroën SM. Round off some of the curves, push the lights out to the sides a bit further, and you're done. Gordonjcp 13:09, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Audi A5

Wanted to add the new Audi A5 to the list but didn't know what notation to use for a car that hasn't been released yet. (Bart 03-10-2007) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 194.109.253.196 (talk) 15:25, 10 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] references

I've added a couple of references; on from the New York Times, the other from a car website. The article is no longer unsourced, and that was the only concern voiced in the prod. As such, I've removed the prod. -- Mikeblas 16:20, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, the references at least confirm that it's not completely original research, although I'd still argue it's a pretty non-notable neologism. Also, I don't see how to get around the fact that the majority of the article is always going to be written in a non-neutral POV - the Hyundai Grandeur and Maybach 62 have Bangle butts? Says who? Sure, there might be stylistic similarities but saying a non-BMW has a Bangle butt is always going to be a matter of opinion. -Big Smooth 18:14, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah; it's pretty easy to support the existence of the term, but harder to reference a car as having this design "feature". There are some design analysis columns in magazines (like in Automobile, for example) which would call out such a feature. I think I agree with one of the unsigned comments above -- that "stepped trunk" is far more appropriate. -- Mikeblas 12:40, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Terribly explained

This article does a terrible job of explaining what specifically "bangle-butt" is, visually. This sentence:

It features separate rear fenders with a "bustle-back" trunk (boot) lid.

really does not make anything clear. Where are the fenders separated? What does "bustle-back" mean? The picture does not point out any specifics either.

Please rewrite for clarity. By way of example, Hofmeister kink is a good instance of a clearly explained article - the article and picture make the referenced feature very clear. -Splitpeasoup 23:03, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

I completely agree that this article does a VERY poor job in explaining what "bangle-butt" is visually. Please someone highlight in a photograph where the "bangle-butt" begins and why it is so. Thanks. --speedoflight | talk to me 13:23, 13 December 2007 (UTC)