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Mentions of the repeats and reruns (for example on Boomerang) would make a fine addition. --AWF

Who on Earth wants a citation that the Dickies got into the UK charts with a cover of the theme? That's fairly well known, isn't it? Not hard to cite... 86.0.230.142 17:12, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

  • Someone went a bit over the top adding the citation tag here. Citation tags should generally only be added to dubious statements or facts that can't easily be verified. I added some sources for the Bob Marley reference because that was a claim rather than a fact, and I've left the Shortnin' Bread tag there because I couldn't find a reliable source for it. The other two tags have been removed because they are easily verified by anyone wanting to. The Dickies fact is even mentioned in their own article, but whoever asked for a citation didn't bother to look. Pufnstuf 04:23, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Fleegle or Fleagle?

Isn't Fleegle's name spelled Fleagle as in beagle? i think it isLiPollis 00:02, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] No, "Fleegle" is correct

According to the Season 2 scripts, his name is spelled "Fleegle." It's also spelled that way on virtually all official merchandise, including the back cover notes on the We're The Banana Splits album. (Mark Yurkiw, webmaster, bananasplits.4t.com) EDIT: I checked the album cover again, and in fact, his name is spelled "Fleagle" in the back cover notes. It's still wrong. (The series' original scripts trump an album cover's liner notes, and besides, I can't find any other licensed merchandise with this spelling.)—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.3.67.4 (talk) 23:14, 17 March 2007 (UTC).

Thanks. Of course, after I posted that question, I went and looked around and felt so stupid when i saw that the majority of verifiable references to him are as Fleegle ! Thanks anyway for the explanation. It will likely prevent any future confusion about the spelling.LiPollis 08:54, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
  • I was going to add a message on this talk page months ago regarding this because it seems to be a common misconception. I was the editor who corrected the name to "Fleegle" originally, in my edit here I was being slightly assertive in the summary because it wasn't the first time a passing editor had decided to change it on a whim. I was going to add an image to the article showing the correct spelling, for example here and here but I thought that wouldn't be classed as "fair use". Pufnstuf 03:38, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Our Little Show" (?)

Thanks to the person who provided clarification on the correct title of that song...may I ask how you verified that information? Are any of these unreleased Splits songs listed in any music publisher (ASCAP/BMI) sources? Do they give the names of who composed them? (For the songs used on the TV show but otherwise unreleased...I'd really like to verify the correct titles and who wrote them, if possible. These include "Adam Had 'Em," "A Place For The Music To Come Out," "You Had Your Chance," "I'd Be A Millionaire," etc. (Mark Yurkiw, webmaster, bananasplits.4t.com) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.3.67.138 (talk) 04:55, 21 March 2007 (UTC).

Your website is good, coincidentally I just added a link to it in this article, before I even realised it was you posting on this talk page. You should register here, it only takes 10 seconds. Pufnstuf 04:33, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks... Hey, I did some looking around and I found that song (and several other Splits songs) at the BMI publishing website: http://repertoire.bmi.com/title.asp?blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=True&page=1&keyid=1335171&ShowNbr=0&ShowSeqNbr=0&querytype=WorkID According to the BMI site, the "legal title" is "Show Must Go On." That week's TV Guide listing had it as "The Show Must Go On." So where does "Our Little Show" come from (other than the lyrics themselves)? (BTW, the composers are Jimmy Radcliffe and Carl Spencer.) --Mark Yurkiw, webmaster, bananasplits.4t.com

[edit] Speaking of misconceptions...

Several common misconceptions show up regarding the Banana Splits all over the place...most of them have been straightened out in the main article, but I'll try and take a stab at them right here.

  • Don Messick did not perform Snorky's voice. (No one did. The character never spoke.)
  • It's "Snorky," not "Snork." Although the theme song lyrics refer to him as "Snork." (Because "Snork" rhymes with "cork.") (The same way Wally Gator does not live in a swamp, even though his theme song says he does.)
  • It's "Fleegle," not "Fleagle."
  • Richard Donner directed all the live-action in the first season, including the Banana Splits segments as well as "Danger Island."
  • Two seasons of shows were produced and originally aired on NBC, but only the Season 1 episodes have been shown in reruns since then.
  • The following cartoons were never part of the original show: Atom Ant; Precious Pupp; Secret Squirrel; Squiddly Diddly; Winsome Witch; The New Adventures Of Huckleberry Finn; The Adventures Of Gulliver. No matter what any website claims, these cartoons never aired as segments on The Banana Splits Adventure Hour. Later on, all these cartoons (which originally were separate shows) were thrown together as part of the re-edited syndicated series, called The Banana Splits And Friends Show, which in reality consisted of a bunch of individual shows under that umbrella title. (The Hillbilly Bears--originally a segment on Atom Ant--did air on the original show, during the second season.)
  • The amusement park footage in the show's opening and closing was not filmed at Kings Island--the series wrapped in 1969, while Kings Island opened in 1972. The commonly-seen Season 2 title sequence, which adorns the syndicated shows, was filmed at Coney Island in Cincinnati--most of the rides and attractions were later relocated to Kings Island. Amusement park scenes filmed for Season 1, including the original Season 1 opening and closing titles, were filmed at Six Flags Over Texas. The Banana Splits In Hocus Pocus Park had scenes filmed at Kings Island, but not the original series. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.3.67.132 (talk) 12:33, 23 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Bingo

Is bingo really a gorilla? That red fur is more like an orang-utan. Totnesmartin 11:49, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Bingo is one of the only known examples of the species gorilla psychedelia, originating in the late 1960s. But to answer your question, Bingo was meant to be a gorilla. Pufnstuf 19:01, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Yeah, what Pufnstuf said. Actually, in show #17 (K-17 REV), "The Great Banana Splits Buggy Race," there is one scene in which announcer Allan Melvin specifically describes Bingo as "an orange gorilla." This didn't stop someone at Marvel Comics from including Bingo in an article about Hanna-Barbera cartoon bears in one of their Hanna-Barbera comic books in the late 1970s.

[edit] N. B. Winkless Jr. wrote "The Tra La La Song" (?)

I notice this page has been amended to credit Nelson B. Winkless as the composer of "The Tra La La Song." That's very interesting, and it would make sense...but on every record release as well as the closing credits of the TV show, the song is credited to Ritchie Adams and Mark Barkan. I would love to see documentation of the Winkless credit. (By the way, he was the father of three of the actors in the suits.)TooterTurtle 23:03, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] About Snorky, Season 1

James "Jimmy" Dove is my father, and I was rather amazed to see the up-to-date information on him in this article. For anyone who is curious, he lives in a long-term care facility in the San Fernando Valley, and suffers from Dementia brought on by advanced-stage Parkinson's Disease. He turned 73 last June and has had the disease for nearly 25 years.

I'm not sure about the voice-over work, but I do know that he was working as a PA for Hanna-Barbera (sp?) when he landed the role. Some 20 years later, he told me that the reason he didn't get on with the others was that they were partiers (he hinted at drinking and experimental drugs, although I don't know if this is true), and my father was a fairly strict Baptist-turned-Pentacostal. In fact, when he lost the job, he and my mother made their side project-- Dove Sounds Prison Ministry --into their full-time job. My father also hinted at age difference being an issue, but again, I can't verify. He told me that the man who replaced him was someone the boys met at a comedy club in Hollywood. The contract he signed with the show was for money up-front with no residuals.

I'll be happy to answer any more questions about the Splits and my father's career before and after. Also, I can pass on queries to my mother who, unlike me, was actually alive at the time, and an active participant in his filming regime. LibraryFaerie 19:08, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dumping trivia

Depositing unencyclopedic trivia here:

[edit] Trivia

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  • The Banana Buggies were modified Amphicat 6x6 ATV's.[1]
  • Costumes used for touring and personal appearances (not used in the show) appear to have been originally made by Scollon Productions, Inc.
  • Multiple sets of costumes were created for the four Banana Splits; the last version of Snorky's costume (used primarily during Season 2) looked significantly different from the costume seen in earlier episodes. The "Season 2 versions" of the characters became the official models for licensed merchandise long after the original series ceased production.
  • The song "Wait Till Tomorrow" (written and sung by Ritchie Adams and Mark Barkan) appeared in two different episodes during the first season. On one airing (Show #7, first aired October 19, 1968) the footage was filmed in San Francisco, including the Golden Gate Bridge and Fisherman's Wharf area, which is frequented by tourists. The other airing's footage (Show #6, first telecast October 12, 1968) was shot at Six Flags Over Texas, most notably on the Log Flume and the rowboat attraction.
  • The group originally was to be called "The Banana Bunch," but legal concerns resulted in the name being changed to "The Banana Splits" before the show went on the air. (The name was already in use for a show airing in the UK.) This necessitated the scrapping of a sizable number of Kellogg's cereal boxes promoting the show

[edit] List of TV stations

That was kind of interesting. I get that it's probably a list of TV stations which at one time carried the syndicated version of the show...but where does it come from? Are those the stations that signed on to run the show when it was first syndicated? I think it's interesting (if non-essential) info...but now you've got me curious. For instance, WFLD-Channel 32 ran the syndicated half-hour show in Chicago (1973-1982), but later on (1984), WPWR-Channel 60 picked up just the Atom Ant and Secret Squirrel episodes. At first they made up their own intro with clips and needle-dropped music and ran the show as "Atom Ant/Secret Squirrel," then one summer they briefly ran the show as "Banana Splits And Friends." But still just the Ant/Squirrel shows. Later on (1990-1991), WGN's superstation feed ran the syndicated series (the whole package), but not in Chicago. TooterTurtle (talk) 22:18, 27 May 2008 (UTC)