Talk:Ban Chao

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I like the article, but the photo of the crossbow in the display case is very hard to interpret. It just looks very bizarre to me, even though I understand the basic function of a crossbow. Could someone write some sort of explanation of why it looks so odd? Peter Isotalo 13:11, Mar 17, 2005 (UTC)

Hi, it's really the way it looks at Musee Guimet, and its shape it probably due to weathering and deformation... it is made of wood and is more than 2000 years old after all. Also the arc (the bow) is missing. The item next to it on the right is a trigger mecanism made of bronze, from the 2nd-3rd century CE, and it is a very fine piece in an amazingly good condition. PHG 13:19, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Is it possible to show it from a different angle? It just doesn't seem to make sense when depicted from side like that.
Peter Isotalo 16:10, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Ban Gu?

Were Ban Chao (32-102) and Ban Gu (32-92) twins? -- Toytoy 13:39, Mar 17, 2005 (UTC)

(Duplicating my answer from Talk:Ban Gu) It would appear so, if this page, this page, and this page are correct. -- Vardion 19:06, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Caspian Sea/Ukraine

From the east coast of the Caspian sea it's quite far to Ukraine, which is north of the Black Sea. If his envoy probably only reached the Black Sea, Ban Chao himself probably didn't go as far as Ukraine. 193.171.121.30 15:29, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Romanization incorrect?

The pinyin romanization should be Ban Zhao, and I believe the Wade-Giles is Pan Chao without the apostrophe.

I wonder if, perhaps, you're confusing Ban Chao (班超) with his sister, Ban Zhao (班昭). I'm fairly certain that the pinyin romanisation of the character 超 is indeed "chao". (I don't know about Wade-Giles, though). -- Vardion 23:23, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
In today's Mandarin Chinese:
  • 班(超)：bopomofo: ㄔㄠ; pinyin: Chāo; sounds like "chow mien".
  • 班(昭)：bopomofo: ㄓㄠ; pinyin: Zhāo; no comparable sounds in English. Sounds like measure's "s" [ʒ] + [ao] → [ʒao] (see International Phonetic Alphabet).
I forgot to sign. -- Toytoy 00:12, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)

ah yes, that's probably it. got them mixed up in my head for some reason. i didn't even bother to look at the characters or the portrait in the article. only stopped by because it was a "new article" on wikipedia frontpage. sorry about that.

[edit] NOTE:

I came across this article looking for info, I could use in a report for school, and finding a section about Merv (Expedition to the doorstep of Europe, next the picture of the crossbow) I saw some information on an alliance he made. Next to this, there is a sentance that says "NOTE: The correct information here should state..." Um...If something is written wrongly, you should fix it, not leave notes. The way it's currently written is very confusing. 69.236.76.121 (talk) 04:37, 7 March 2008 (UTC)