Talk:Banū Mūsā

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The banu musa are ARAB, not persian. Check out http://www.gap-system.org/~history/Biographies/Banu_Musa.html for more information. I find that this has almost become some sort of propaganda, as if just mentioning that someone is of arabic heritage is a crime. Too often notable arab thinkers, are either moulded so that their names do not reflect their oragin, or they're labelled persian. The brothers were never persian, they were arabic. Their father was arabic as well, and they were born and studied in baghdad under the guidance of al-Ma'mun, the son of Harun-al Rashid the arab caliphite responsible for the thriving culture of baghdad. ALL of whom were arabic. I'm arabic and i study arabic history- and I fear for the survival of the history of my people. The recent events of the middle east- should not hinder nor damage the accurate perception of the arab people.

[edit] A strong Persian presence

There is a strong Persian presence in Wikipedia that’s why they keep deleting every thing related to ArabsAziz1005 20:09, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Mardvich stop this childish Nuisance, if you have an evidance write it with out deleting others contributions Aziz1005 22:39, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

the first referenceis not English and there is No way to check it ;the second one is in English and it does not say directly Banu Musa were Persian.Eventhough, this does not give you the right to delete my contributions and sourcesAziz1005 00:18, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Even Columbia encyclopedia says they were Arabs[ http://columbia.thefreedictionary.com/Bana+Musa], ok then keep this misleading Persians every single Iraqi bit became Persian now ...well done guysAziz1005 00:24, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

That's a mirror and tertiary source, we're citing primary sources that clearly state the brothers were Persian. --Mardavich 00:37, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Your other source, [1] doesn't mention anything about them being "arab". Please find reliable sources in disputes --Rayis 00:39, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

It does say arab scientists; also does not say Persian eitherAziz1005 01:55, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

The word banu بنو which means children (In Arabic) is different in persian, so if we assume they were persian ,why they did not have a Persian name? and why all thier books were in Arabic ?(because as usually persian users say Baghdad was a persian city!!!)Aziz1005 01:59, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

your source [2] is not reliable sources it does not meets WP:V and WP:RSAziz1005 02:09, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry your source quotes a scholar by the name Dabbagh(Arab scholar) and there is no other place that it mentions them . It is not reliable. Oaks is a very reliable as he is a professor of history of mathematics. The Banu Musa are considered Persian by Richard Frye (The Golden age of Persia pg 162). Also When Baghdad Ruled the Muslim World: The Rise and Fall of Islam's Greatest Dynasty By Hugh Kennedy(pg 254):The Banu Musa seem to have come from eastern Iran. Note they translated Pahlavi texts. --alidoostzadeh 21:53, 9 February 2007 (UTC)