Talk:Baltic Sea cruiseferries

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I have heard that the Baltic Sea cruiseferries are the biggest compared to their travel distance in the entire world. Atlantic cruiseferries are bigger but they travel a much longer distance. Can someone verify this claim? JIP | Talk 19:19, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Atlantic cruiseferries as in reference to which ships? To the best of my knowledge there are no cruiseferries doing transatlantic voyages, and most cruiseferries in traffic along either shore of the Atlantic are mostly older generation cruiseferries originally built for the Baltic Sea trade. - Kjet 20:39, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture talk

I'm for one going to ask before swapping pictures in the article... How about using this or this picture instead of the current one, as the current one (still) is already featured in the Silja Symphony article, plus I think those two illustrate even better how narrow the Kustaanmiekka strait actually is. - Kjet 10:09, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Swapped images. Chose the the Symphony image. It really shows how large the ship is. Too bad it is not in a higher resolution; it would be nice to see the people on the upper deck in detail. The M/S Mariella image is in ways even better, but it does not have the crowd of people waving on the Suomenlinna side. Besides it is already used three times, including the Kustaanmiekka article (redirect). -- Petri Krohn 11:51, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of ...

[edit] Principal Baltic cruise-ferries

Those carrying passengers and operating nearly year-round. This is a simplification and generalisation covering the main route that each ship operates on as of 2007. Routes and lines will have variations at weekends, during major sporting events and owing to the seasonal demands of late-Autumn, Christmas and peak summer. High-speed vessels have limitations preventing their operation during the icy winter.

Ship	GT	Route	Line	Roundtrip	Notes
Large ferries
M/S Superfast VII	30,285	Rostock—Helsinki—Tallinn	Tallink	72-hour	Two nights north, one night south
M/S Superfast VIII	30,285
M/S Superfast IX	30,285
M/S Silja Serenade	58,376	Stockholm—Åland—Helsinki	Silja Line	48-hour	Overnight, return next night
M/S Silja Symphony	58,377
M/S Gabriella	35,492		Viking	48-hour
M/S Mariella	37,860
M/S Romantika	39,864	Stockholm—Åland—Tallinn	Tallink	48-hour
M/S Victoria	40,975
M/S Silja Europa	59,914	Turku—Åland—Stockholm	Silja Line	24-hour	Overnight, daytime return
M/S Isabella	35,154		Viking
M/S Silja Festival	33,818	Stockholm—Åland—Turku	Silja Line
M/S Amorella	34,384		Viking
Large ferries on short routes
M/S Cinderella	46,398	Stockholm—Åland	Viking	24-hour	Moored overnight in Mariehamn.
M/S Galaxy	48,915	Tallinn—Helsinki	Tallink	24-hour	Moored overnight in Tallinn.
M/S Star	33,000	Tallinn—Helsinki	Tallink	twice daily	Moored overnight in Helsinki
M/S Rosella	16,850	Helsinki—Tallinn	Viking		Moored overnight in Tallinn
Smaller ferries
M/S Regina Baltica	13,878	Stockholm—Riga	Tallink	48-hour	Overnight, return next night
M/S Vana Tallinn	10,002
M/S Ålandsfärjan	6,336	Mariehamn—Kappelskä	Viking	2-3 daily	Local transport
HSC SuperSeaCat Three	4,465	Tallinn—Helsinki	SuperSeaCat	1-2 daily	Premium commuter services
HSC SuperSeaCat Four	4,465
fi:HSC Nordic Jet	2,273		fi:Nordic Jet Line	3 daily
fi:HSC Baltic Jet	2,273

—Sladen 18:22, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

A very good idea, but a few pointers: 1) as this an article on Baltic Sea cruiseferries, Ålandfärjan, the SuperSeaCats nor Nordic Jet vessels wouldn't belong there. Or if those are included so should be Eckerö Line's vessels (Nordlandia should be in anyway), RG Line vessels, Georg Ots, Destination Gotland vessels and probably a bunch of others I'm forgetting right now. 2) Star is a thrice-daily service. 3) Stena Line, TT-Line and Polferries also operate cruiseferries on the Baltic. DFDS Seaways and Color Line operate cruiseferries on routes that are partially within the Baltic. 4) The separation into "large ferries" and "large ferries on short routes" seems a bit odd. Personally I'd put them all in the same list, and if further subsectioning is needed I'd go with breking them down based on the traffic area. -- Kjet 22:51, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Also notice that some tonnages are in Gross Register Tons (GRT) and some in Gross Tons (GT), which aren't interchangable. The most notable difference is Regina Baltica - although she's only 13,878 GRT, she's actually larger than Rosella due to the way GRT are calculated. -- Kjet 23:05, 2 December 2007 (UTC)