Talk:Ball tampering
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An entry from Ball tampering appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column on 24 August 2006. |
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Atherton was not found guilty of ball-tampering - although there was a strong innuendo that that was what he was really up to. Most of the penalty he was given was for lying to the match referee. He was also found guilty of having dirt in his pocket. Atherton claimed it was to dry his hands, but the implication was that it was because he was using the dirt to unfairly alter the condition of the ball. If this incident is to be included, it needs more care than a straightforward claim that he was found guilty of ball-tampering and that the penalty was for that, as that claim is untrue, jguk 20:41, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
- No probs. I was working mostly from memory, and on a closer inspection that seems the case. Erath 20:49, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
If you read the article Reverse Swing you will realise u r wrong to accuse waqar and wasim of ball tampering in 1992. It says:-
In the early days of reverse swing, Pakistani bowlers were suspected of ball tampering to achieve the conditions of the ball that allow reverse swing, but today they are considered to simply have been ahead of their time.
I feel you should put that in the end or below.
--ExE 23:32, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
- No-one at Wikipedia is accusing Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis - it was merely the press speculation at the time. The comments carry a source that is verifiable. Your above quote also contains a pro-Pakistan point of view, and Wikipedia is not for points of view, just verifiable facts. Erath 23:45, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
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- The other day while watching a show named "Top 10 bowlers of all time: Wasim Akram" i heard an english batsmen (i cant remember his name right now) to say the exact words that "they were ahead of their time" but i guess accoring to wikipedia's rules its just a point of view?ExE 01:12, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Dirt in pocket
I'm currently expanding the article South African cricket team in England in 1994, and have picked up some sources for the "Dirt in pocket" incident if anyone is interested in adding them to this page and expanding that section of this article:
Reaction: [1]
BBC Sport retrospective on Atherton's career: [2]
Christopher Martin-Jenkins report in the Daily Telegraph: [3]
I'm currently working on a project to expand England's International performances from 1993 onwards, so no real time to contribute any further here! --Dave. 12:38, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Rating
What exactly does a "B" rating entail? Can I have some justification of its grading? I hate it when an editor comes in and arbitarily assigns a letter sans raison. Erath 20:50, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
- Ratings are assessed according to standards and guidelines at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Cricket/Assessment#Quality_scale. They are by necessity, subjective but should not be arbitrary. I would agree with the current B-Class rating according to current standards. That page also explains the process and who can assess an article. If you have any more questions, that talk page would be the place to ask. —Moondyne 06:15, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
