Talk:Bailiff
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[edit] What is a bailiff
OK, stupid question time. In the picture at the top, who is the bailiff? The woman or the man? Just wondering... The Singing Badger 23:47, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
- The man is the Bailiff, I'm not sure who the woman is (And yes, a new picture would be helpful) Sherurcij July 7, 2005 19:21 (UTC)
Why does it mention september 11th in the new york section? Not really relavent in the whole "what is a baliff?" question
- Reply to apparently old question by unknown contributor: I removed the utterly irrelevant " Three NYS Court Officers were killed during the September 11, 2001 terrorist attack on the World Trade Center in New York City. Dozens of Court Officers from the courts in lower Manhattan responded to the scene prior to the collapse of the towers." from the article. There must have been hundreds of bailiffs killed around the world in the last six years, and at that location and time it is not a surprise. Nor their and many other people working in the neighbourhood to have arrived early at the scene. — SomeHuman 03 Sep 2007 02:11 (UTC)
[edit] England
Although I've no reason to believe that the information in this section is incorrect, it is written in legalese, which is almost impenetrable to the layman and bears no resemblance to what 90% of the people in England understand to be a bailiff. I don't really feel qualified or knowledgeable enough to remove swathes of what may, or may not, be an accurate description of a bailiff - anybody fancy having a go? Tellkel 14:03, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
To the best of my knowledge and reading on the subject the information is accurate. It could go even further than it does. The main article already deals with the concept of a "bailiff" in general language. This "England" section commences to deal with the specific jurisdiction. If the article is to serve the function of extending and enriching the reader's knowledge then it needs, as it does, to start using the relevant legal language associated with this subject in the "England" jurisdiction. Add to it, claify it but do not deprive readers by removing accurate information. Lanyon 03:00, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Merger proposal
Apart from some external links, the very short article Huissier de justice has little more to offer than what can be found under Bailiff. That article handles the medieval as well as the modern names of people in the different law systems of several countries, including those using the term "Huissier de justice", while this name also appears to violate the naming convention for WP articles. There is no need to have such rudimentary information in a separate article titled by a purely French word. — SomeHuman 03 Sep 2007 01:04 (UTC)
No don't merge. Merely because the term "Huissier de justice" is commonly translated into english as "bailiff" or "sheriff" does not mean that they are bailiffs or sheriffs. The terms "Sheriff" and "bailiff" have a relevance, history & development within the legal system rooted in English law. It appears the "Hussier de justice" has a seperate meaning, history & relevance in the European civil law system. It seems they are similar ("like") but not identical to bailiffs and that the term is not merely a French translation of the word "bailiff". The article should be developed to speak about the unique characteristics of that role or function and it's histoical development in that civil law legal system. Lanyon 03:48, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
This proposal seems dead, I am removing the template. -Rrius (talk) 04:34, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] US Examples
Although many Americans would colloquially refer to uniformed officers in a courtroom as bailiffs, the vast majority of them are sheriffs, marshals, or court officers. In fact, they are generally not referred to as "bailiffs" by judges, lawyers, and other court personnel. Much of the verbiage in the section does not explain what bailiffs do in the US; rather, it lists what non-bailiffs in various states do. For that reason, I have modified the section to clarify American usage of the term "bailiff" and to describe what bailiffs, whether called that or not, do. In addition, I have removed the references to the specific state examples, which were not useful. -Rrius (talk) 08:49, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Obviously you dont work in a court. The proper term for any lawman working in a superior court is Bailiff. And s/he is refered to in that way in the formal setting os a court in session. I.E. "Bailiff, the defendant is remanded to your custody."
How do I know, I am one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.107.79.204 (talk) 19:35, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
