Talk:Baile Folklorico

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I am not sure that there is such a thing as "Mexican folk dance" or "baile folklorico". Obviously, there is a great variety of dances in every region of México, but practicioners mainly see themselves as participating in a regional, not in a overarching national tradition. The lumping-together of these diverse traditions is a typical TV-, tourist-, chilango- or expat-phenomenon (not to mention the hand of the PRI), and I would argue that it did not exist before the advent of the Mexican cine de oro in the 1940s, or maybe even as late as the 1950s. The name in and of itself is strange, because "folk" is a US term with decidedly Irish roots. If anything, most Mexicans would speak of "baile popular", mostly adding the region, as in "baile popular de Jalisco". So what this article is describing is a phantom, very much like "Krautrock" that is only visible from the outside. Therefore I see three possibilities: Address this issue within the article and trace the emergence of this virtual phenomenon (instead of pretending that "baile folklorico" really exists), use this term as a category a write articles for a variety of dances, or to kick it out altogether, because "baile folklorico" doesn't exist. 200.56.66.122 (talk) 02:43, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Also list as "Ballet Folklorico"? A number of groups also call themselves as such, for example http://www.stanford.edu/group/folklorico

[edit] Move to "Mexican folk dance"

Shouldn't the English name be used? What's more, the article is specifically about Mexican folk dancing, even though the Spanish term is used elsewhere. --Eipi 21:48, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

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That's probably a good idea, however the phrase baile folkolico or baile folklorico mexicano should be prominent at the beginning, since that how this type of dancing is referred to within Mexico and the mexican-american community. Within the US, the majority of spanish-speakers understand baile folklorio to mean Mexican folk dance, probably because the majority are of Mexican descent. In particular, in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas, baile folklorico is as well known or more well known a form of folkdancing as is international folk dance or morris, contra, Israeli, etc. is in the rest of the country.

So the idea here is to avoid confusion with non-Mexican spanish speakers who would also call their own folk dances baile folklorico. --Jperegrino 01:06, 3 August 2006 (UTC)