Talk:Bai Hong

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[edit] the source being used in this article.

This is like using Wikipedia to source Wikipedia. Baidu Baike is an encyclopedia that anyone can freely edit so long as the Chinese government stays happy. I don't think this is one of those third-party sources that people talk about. Pandacomics 05:30, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes I am aware of Baidu Baike. Think of this page as a translation. Look at Manchukuo Film Association for example. Pretty much anything that has been seriously censored need a starting point somewhere. Especially cultural materials from 1910 to 1950. Alot of the best English books on Chinese pop music barely even mention Zhou Xuan. Try finding info on Four Heavenly Kings of cantopop from non-tabloid magazines and fan sites. It is near impossible. The good news is there are tons of "greatest hits" CDs mentioning these artists. Benjwong 06:33, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

It's a translation, yes, but using it as a citable source just raises some eyebrows. Finding info on the Four Heavenly Kings should not be that hard, seeing as both Jay Chou and S.H.E have news coming out of entertainment sections of news sites (e.g. Sina.com and Tom.com). Considering their fame, there should already be Chinese-language books on Andy Lau, at least. It's just a matter of whether or not you're going to bring yourself to buy a copy just for Wikipedia research. However, the fact that Baidu Baike is freely editable (i.e. is a background guide and not a definitive source, much like Wikipedia) and that information on celebrities is hard to find are two different things. As for the former, I think there are at least some things on Bai Hong from books or news. The Baidu editors must have gotten it from somewhere, after all. Pandacomics 07:16, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Most of the editors get this stuff from chinese newspapers and tabloid magazines. Which they don't reference cause everyone knows celebrity paparazzi are not any more reliable. BTW only a few articles like Bai Hong, Bai Guang were straight translated. I very well could have started the article, added a picture and called it a stub. There are plenty of books about the music industry, but few go in depth about the artist lives. Benjwong 15:18, 25 July 2007 (UTC)