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To-do list for Baghdad:
  • Reasonable History section, but Sights and monuments, Business, Geography, Culture and Demographics are too short
  • both miles and kilometers are used to describe distances in the article, it would make more sense to use just one
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[edit] Neighborhoods

Can someone make a map of which areas are Sunni and which are Shia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.58.206.209 (talk) 00:30, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

The Baghdad article is being simply Biased because if you read it carefully you'll immediately notice the Persian nationalistic unfluence on it which is incorrect & manipulated..the name persian is mentioned more than Baghdad, Iraq & Arabic...& by fact Iraq is officially an Arabic country & all this persian propaganda is unnessecary & unacceptable by the Iraqi population...& this accounts for other Iraqi- & Arabic-related articles being manipulated throughout Wikipedia....even in the Iran related articles things are being manipulated in the way that everything is being changed to persian to serve the persian nationalistic intentions even though Iran has lots of Arabic influence on it...,unfortunately Wikipedia is not trustful anymore. Iraswe —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.6.158.33 (talk) 13:45, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pre-Baghdad

Can anyone add information, if it is known somewhere, about the cities exiting where Baghdad now is before it became Baghdad?

[edit] sorely incomplete/biased article

2000+ years of history and culture, and half the article is about the last few years?! There's more about recent gallop polls than about the civilization that called Baghdad home for more than a millenia. Ugh, this is why Wikipedia is laughed at... Spookfish 06:26, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

I agree, this article is pitiful. We must have some pictures of Baghdad where the city isn't on fire... Coffee 07:57, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
Yes. WTF is this article? There is one sentence about the 300 year Ottoman rule! 76.172.64.179 04:18, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Yes, i agree with you. Baghdad was there before 2000 and recent events are too much explained whereas the real history and roots of this town are not there. And, I think that the term of "Invasion of Iraq" is not appropriate. I think "Liberation of Iraq" would be better.

[edit] Etymology

I think I can add a good etymology section to the article (about the name Baghdad and its origins). I'll try to get it done this weekend.--Zereshk 21:11, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm confused as to how bagh means god...i can think of many owrds in persian, but bagh is not one of them. if anything, bagh means garden, but with the alef. Kızılderili 22:43, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pronunciation

The word Baghdad is frequently used throughout the American media, however it is ALWAYS mispronounced as "bag-dad". Can Wikipedia help (even more) by adding a sound-bite with the proper pronunciation on the main page? -- 192.231.106.2 00:53, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Main image

The main image at the top of the page (Image:Baghdad.jpg) was a copyright violation from www.robinhocker.com, and has been deleted. You may want to find another suitable image. Proto||type 14:54, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Is it OK if I add an image?Bless sins 21:05, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] the mayor is ryan seacrest?

and who does it say is "mayor's bitch?" omg —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.29.211.22 (talk • contribs) .

[edit] Distance

Rather than using just miles or kilometres (as the 'to do' list suggests), it would be useful to use both but in a structured way throughout. For example, X is 13 km (8 miles) from Y. Excluding on measurement would alienate some of the readership.

EVOCATIVEINTRIGUE TALKTOME | EMAILME | IMPROVEME 14:02, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gas?

Is there a source for the British using gas attacks to pacify the Iraqis in the 20s? Cos I saw a TV programme which mentioned this once, and it was lambasting the British for hypocrisy because of this, but it said they only PLANNED to use gas, before cancelling because it was too expensive... Indigenius 13:32, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Uum.. since when was baghdad called "penis heads" and nicknamed the "garden of poop"?

Attempting to change..

[edit] A lot of...

Sillyness on this page.

Wait, do you mean it being edited to say fadge? -Guy Person-

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Cbs claims peace in this neighborhood: Christian; Sunni; Shiite.

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[edit] Population

Firstly there is a mistake on the page regarding Baghdad's compostion; it states that the city is comprised of 60% shia when infact it should be 40% according to several reliable sources. 20:47, 02 March 2008

[edit] British bombing of Iraq

The account of the British occupation of Iraq in the twenties/thirties is very one-sided! I have changed one patent inaccuracy - the Gernam bombing of London and other British and French targets during the First World War - not to mention retalitory bombing by the allies - was targetted essentially at civilian morale, so that the British (for all their sins) cannot be justly accused of introducing "terror" bombing to the world (at least not in Iraq). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 144.139.79.82 (talk) 00:33, 16 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Opening paragraphs

The third opening paragraph seems to have been partially deleted, but I can't find a version of the article with the full paragraph...can anyone else figure this out? Super Jedi Droid 20:56, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WHY ?!?!?!

Hi i'm an iraqi dude born and raised in baghdad/ haifa street (which is now an utter ruin) i'v been out from baghdad studying in north cyprus for almost two years, can anyone tell me what the fu*k is going on ?? iraq has been occupied for four years and USA still can't establish security and stabelity is "the United States of America" that weak ???? what the hell is going on ??!?!?!? so many iraqi innocent people killed why ??? i'm away from my home just like millions fled why for the love of god someone tell me ?!?!?!

Anonymous Iraqi

[edit] 2nd massacre of Baghdad

I wanted more info on the 2nd massacre of Baghdad, but this article barely mentions it at all (the June 1401 seizure & massacre, under the army of Timur). Harvard yarrd

[edit] Naming issue

We have WP:UE policy. Any doubts that the English name for the city is well established and it is Baghdad? I have move protected the article Alex Bakharev 23:55, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ethnic Cleansing

The term doesn't describe what's going on in Baghdad and I'm not sure where it was sourced. Sectarian violence is probably better. Matt Sanchez 03:45, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Many people have described what has happened in Baghdad as "ethnic cleansing." For example, veteran journalist Patrick Cockburn, who has a forthcoming book on the Iraq war, stated earlier this month: "the fall in the death rate is partly because ethnic cleansing has already done its grim work and in much of Baghdad there are no mixed areas left."[1] Siberian Husky (talk) 13:51, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Haifa Street

I was just on Haifa street where the situation has improved drastically. Matt Sanchez 03:47, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Renewable engergy Source

This section is an absolute joke. Who put this in there and where was it sourced? I've seen NO plans to use solar power beside the scant use of it for street lamps, and even those lamps glow more than light. Renewable electricity and energy is not a priority anywhere in several very wealthy Middle Eastern cities with great security situations. The conservation global warming hysteria is very much a Western construct. Matt Sanchez 03:51, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Coordinates

Could we please have those damn coordinates as real text so they are easy to copy! instead of this floating over it all pop design. --IceHunter 01:48, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Name

Should we say Although there is dispute over its Iranian origin, or should we say Although there is dispute over its Persian origin? Mussav (talk) 07:50, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Read Iranian languages, the dispute is about weather it's Kurdish or Persian, both of which are classified as Iranian languages, so there is no dispute about the Iranian origin of the name.--07fan (talk) 14:55, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
about the dispute of course there is a dispute, it is either "god-given" "God's gift" or "The Given Garden" but we all agree it's Iranian name so no need to add a source, you will ruin the paragraph beside it wasn't a real source, it should be a direct link ;) Mussav (talk) 19:22, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sights and Monuments Section

The beginning of this section includes one of the most disastrous run-on sentences I have ever seen. I am just browsing, but perhaps someone involved in this page will repair it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.87.70.194 (talk) 21:44, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Baghdad City

I'm a bit confused. The Baghdad Governate page, here, says that the governate is both a province and a city. This page seems to say that there is an actual Baghdad City apart from the governate. What is the square mileage/kilometers of only the City of Baghdad? --Criticalthinker (talk) 01:42, 8 April 2008 (UTC)