Talk:Baden-Powell House

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[edit] GA status

2 little things to keep the GA tag. First, expand the lead. Secondly, remove the nowadays and bring it a bit more NPOV. Lincher 13:58, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

I'll do a bit of this. I'm sure the creator will gladly work on this too. Please allow some time for the updates. Thanks for the input.Rlevse 14:16, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
Both Randy (Rlevse) and Lincher thanks for supporting GA and providing further improvement recommendations. Of course, we'll work on these promptly. I intend to open a Peer Review for the article soon, and hope to have these two things taken care of before that. Wim van Dorst (Talk) 14:44, 18 June 2006 (UTC).
Lincher, Wim acted very quickly, please let us know if you have more concerns. Rlevse 15:49, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
On the Peer Review page, please? Wim van Dorst (Talk) 18:36, 18 June 2006 (UTC).

[edit] New peer review output

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You may wish to browse through User:AndyZ/Suggestions for further ideas. Thanks, Wim van Dorst (Talk) 19:28, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Further feedback

Big improvement here. Can the Worshipful Company etc. by wikilinked? I expect it'll be a bluelink. Not sure about including the name of the current warden - I'm generally wary of including details, even down to the name, of largely non-notable living people.

I'd still be interested to know if this hostel is signed up to any particular rating system for quality of accommodation. And the revenues estimate of 2-4 million is weird - was this an estimate by a Wikipedian, from other sources? TheGrappler 14:03, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Worshipful etc: wikilinked, and yes it is blue!
  • The warden's name is out: I had my doubt when I found the titbit of info
  • It is Four Star, and part of YHA: added info and references
  • the income is was 1.3 some years ago and growing. Copy-edited, added refs

So, all done. Any other help you (or anyone else) can provide? I'll go for re-FAC soon, then. Wim van Dorst (Talk) 00:21, 15 July 2006 (UTC).

You might want to wait a week or so to see if I come up with anything else :-) I'm sure you've spent enough time on FAC to work out what kind of objector I am! If I can't find anything to quibble about then it'll probably pass...
  • Further thought 1: is the "M" really capitalized in "Modern architecture"?
  • Further thought 2: "The architectural term for Tubbs' design style of the six storied Baden-Powell House is Modern architecture, which was mainstream architecture at the time." sounds awful, maybe "built in the [[Modern architecture|]] [[architectural style]] that predominated at the time"? The architecture section reads at the weakest-written at the moment. "Also Le Corbusier's Sainte Marie de La Tourette priory, near Lyon, has clear similarities in its facades with Baden-Powell House." --> don't like the "also" at the beginning, maybe "additionally"? In fact, you might want to state to whom the similarities were clear... presumably this is coming from Cropplestone (since that's referenced) but I'm uncomfortable the "clear similarities" as it stands. For instance, why is it even relevant that these similarities exist? If you wrote "The architectural critic/historian (whatever he is) Trewin Copplestone has commentated/commentated/discussed the similarities between..." and if the source gives you it, "..and has suggested it was the original inspiration for (whatever aspect of the design)".
  • Further thought 3: what is a Scout Activity Center? It's not too much help saying that it is one if you give no explanation and the term is redlinked. Presumably being a Scout Activity Center is pretty central to this building's existence?
Just for your consideration, I hope this is all proving useful. I suspect it is, since the article's quality seems to be well on the rise! TheGrappler 00:40, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, TheGrappler, for these furthering thoughts. Accepted in great appreciation.

  1. Yes, Modern architecture is the name of a specific architectural style. So I propose to retain the capitalization of Modern architecture. Or should that be Modern Architecture, then?
  2. From your questions, it is clear that this paragraph isn't clear. I therefore rewrote it, and hope this is a logical paragraph now, where the similarities, obvious to the trained architectural eye, support the style denomination.
  3. Instead of explaining more in this text (superfluous here IMHO), I simply created the Scout Activity Centre article.

Having done these improvements, I plan to re-nominate the article for FA again. Having incorporated so many of your good proposals, I optimistically expect that you'll support the nomination now. Wim van Dorst (Talk) 20:50, 15 July 2006 (UTC).

For "Modern" vs "modern" see the usage in Postmodern architecture#Brief discussion, where it's referred to as "modern architecture". In the Modern architecture article it's always "M" but only since "modern" always seems to be at the start of sentences! TheGrappler 11:00, 16 July 2006 (UTC)