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[edit] Gravy?

I've edited the page to change "usually with some form of gravy on it" to "usually with some form of sauce on it." I may be hopelessly wrong and consequently this may be opinion rather than fact. But as a British dish I've never seen gravy on a bacon butty, and it's my understanding that this is primarily a British term. JennyRad, 21:10 5th November 2005 GMT.

I too have never observed gravy upon a bacon butty delight and hence I agree with your alteration. I, myself, prefer a nice dash of vinegar - lovely jubbly! A further addition of HP sauce makes for a truly superb consumption.

One can of course opt for the more exotic Bacon Buertoen. GeneralManager 03:02, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

A bacon butty with ketchup is all gravy! Bombot 11:01, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Stop reverting changes! M3Plus 05:04, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy? I think not

I have a cookbook printed in the UK (Recipes from The Nation's Favourite Food, 2003 companion guide to the BBC miniseries, ISBN 0563488662) that specifically mentions bacon butties, and there are plenty of Google hits that have nothing to do with Wikipedia that assert the existence of the bacon butty. I had never heard of such a thing, but it does seem to exist, and to be quite a notable form of British breakfast/junk food. Haikupoet 03:31, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Check any book-length Beatles biography or history; butties were standard Beatles food, mentioned frequently (bacon butties and chip butties in particular), and preferred over much of the catered food they got after they became famous. George Harrison is quoted in Philip Norman's Shout! as telling a journalist, "I'll trade you an autograph for a jam butty." Zephyrad 03:38, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] reply

It certainly seems you have your sources. Sorry for the misunderstanding. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.249.15.10 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Sources

There are a lot of comments in this article which are POV. Statements such as bacon butty's being a staple food and the favourite of people. These need references. Also references to 'dry bacon butty' as being known as a common name etc...

As it stands, it reads like a fan page of the bacon butty. -Localzuk (talk) 19:17, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Revamp?

Well, you know how enthusiasm can blur the line between fact and feeling. Personally, I'd like to see a formal, collective Butty page (ooh, potential bad pun?), with sections for bacon, chip, jam and other kinds of butties, condensing everything from the existing pages and adding whatever other essentials we can find. Zephyrad 19:03, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

"Contrary to popular belief, the bacon butty was not invented by actor Kevin Bacon" WHAT?! Who would possibly believe that?SRP 17:47, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ingredients

Some factual problems here.

When bread becomes toasted, it can no longer be considereda butty.

And raisin bread never comes into the equation.

Similar, I dont feel BLT is in the spirit of the butty. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.146.52.17 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Butty?

This term is a fairly English one (NW?), I would have thought, so why is it the page every other article redirects to (b. sandwich, b. sarnie etc)? I think it should be changed so bacon sandwich is used. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexbuirds (talk • contribs)

I agree that Bacon sandwich would be better as as well as butty ther term Bacon Roll is ued quite often or as they say in Scotland "a roll and bacon" which when asked for one in my days a catering assistant and later cook in a self-service restaurant I was sometimes tempted to serve a bread roll with the bacon seperatly but I never did. Penrithguy 17:21, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bangers and Mash?

"Bacon butties are an all day favourite throughout the United Kingdom, similar to fish and chips or bangers and mash." Bacon butties are definitely all day favourite being eaten morning, noon and night; but I've never heard of people eating bangers and mash for breakfast, and the only people I've seen start the day with fish and chips were extremely hungover young men. If no one disagrees I'll edit it. --Acamon 20:24, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Buertoen

Removed long-standing reference to this. Looking at [[1]] and googling it seems clear that it was just a joke.--Snori 22:28, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Seems to be back. As per here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:We_hold_these_Bad_Jokes_and_Other_Deleted_Nonsense_to_be_self-evident#From_Bacon_Buertoen 80.42.234.50 16:46, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Perfection?

According to the BBC, Leeds University has researched the "perfect" butty (http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/6538643.stm) "They found that two or three back bacon rashers should be cooked under a preheated oven grill for seven minutes at about 240C (475F). The bacon should then be placed between two slices of farmhouse bread, 1cm to 2cm thick. The formula is: N = C + {fb (cm) . fb (tc)} + fb (Ts) + fc . ta, where N=force in Newtons required to break the cooked bacon, fb=function of the bacon type, fc=function of the condiment/filling effect, Ts=serving temperature, tc=cooking time, ta=time or duration of application of condiment/filling, cm=cooking method, C=Newtons required to break uncooked bacon." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Liamdaly620 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Re: BLT "fact"?

Ooooookay, is somebody debating the existence of the BLT sandwich, or that it compares to the bacon butty?! What kind of citation would satisfy? Zephyrad 01:43, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] dry bacon butty etc

I googled "bacon butty" and got 83,900 hits but "dry bacon butty" only got 8 and most if not all seemed to be derived from this article. So although some people may use the term it probably is not in common use. Who invented it?

Can you really add egg, baked beans, mushrooms, black pudding or sausages and still call it a bacon sandwich? I don't think it would be the same. I can just about accept that a BLT is a slightly mutant variation but only because lettuce and tomato don't count because they aren't real food.

Does anyone have any examples of bacon sandwiches on the menus of high class restaurants? They ought to be there, I just wonder if they are.

Cheers, Petecarney 18:29, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] macdonalds reference

is it necessary to have a mention of the macdonalds breakfast menu version of the bacon sandwich, complete with a link to the company website? it seems more spam than bacon... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.188.8.190 (talk • contribs)

[edit] New picture needed?

Brown bread?!?!?!? Surely the majority of bacon butties are made with white bread. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BrucePodger (talk • contribs) 20:54, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Canada?

Are these at all common in Canada? I've never heard anyone outside my family mention them, but we all grew up with them. Anyone else from Canada who can weigh in? 68.147.0.68 (talk) 12:14, 9 June 2008 (UTC)