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[edit] 21st century

I think that the gap between the Ottoman Empire section and the "21st century section" is too great. In addition to that, the first time Baalbek has been heard of in modern times is because of Israeli agression against that town. I find it funny that foxnews puts a story up involving baalbek and not 2 hours later there is a section on this page involving "UH-60 blackhawk helicopters seen dropping israeli special forces into the city." We jumped from the ottoman empire section to a 21st century section which contained a single sentence. Piss on whoever posted that - al Azif

interesting as well that the IP address that posted the "21st century" section resolves to washington DC.

  • canada, actually. can't blame Bush for this. MarsRover

[edit] ah my apologies

the site i used said it was 99 percent positive it was D.C. I was'nt implying it was Bush.... perhaps just someone who supports aipac.

[edit] 2 August 2006 Israeli raid

The following info (reversing chronological by the timeline of reports) needs summarising and adding to the article:

source: http://lebanonupdates.blogspot.com/ accessdate=2006-08-03

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Minute by Minute:: August 2

Source: Tayyar, New TV and other news sources

  1. 08:50 Lebanese police announces 11 civilians killed and 6 kidnapped by Israeli unit in Baalbek
  2. 07:00 Sources close to Hezbollah: those kidnapped were not Hezbollah fighters
  3. 05:55 Hikmeh Hospital in Baalbek destroyed completely
  4. 05:45 Israeli army says it has seized three Hezbollah fighters in Baalbek, captives transported to Israel
  5. 04:00 as-Safir correspondent: Israeli helicopters still launching air strikes on area around Hikmeh Hospital in Baalbek until after 3:00 am, while Israeli jet fighters launched fake air strikes; four hours after start of operation, explosions still heard in area; Hezbollah source denies Hezbollah Shura member Sheikh Mohammed Yazbek targeted in Israeli landing attempt
  6. 03:45 Lebanese sources: second Israeli combat unit advances in outskirts of Baalbek
  7. 03:10 Israeli air strikes on al-Jamaliyeh near Hikmeh Hospital in Baalbek, casualties reported
  8. 02:30 Lebanese sources confirm Hezbollah surrounding Israeli unit near Baalbek
  9. 02:15 Hezbollah denies Israeli army may have kidnapped anyone from hospital
  10. 01:50 Hezbollah: Israeli commandos surrounded in Hikmeh Hospital
  11. 01:47 Lebanese army foils Israeli landing attempt near Ain Bourday near Baalbek
  12. 01:36 Intense shelling and helicopters circle over Hikmeh Hospital in Baalbek
  13. 01:35 Fire breaks out in Hikmeh Hospital in Baalbek
  14. 01:30 Israeli sources: operation in Hikmeh Hospital aims to kidnap Sheikh Yazbek, Hezbollah Shura member
  15. 01:11 Fierce battles around Hikmeh Hospital in Baalbek
  16. 00:54 Hezbollah surrounds Israeli soldiers in hospital in Baalbek
  17. 00:53 Hezbollah says three soldiers from Israeli helicopter crew hit in Baalbek
  18. 00:43 Hezbollah says it surrounded Israeli airborne helicopter crew south of Baalbek
  19. 00:29 Lebanese internal security forces: Israeli helicopters circle at low altitude on Baalbek – Homs road, burns three petrol stations
  20. 00:26 al-Jazeera correspondent: Israel targets Hikmeh Hospital thinking wounded high-ranking Hezbollah official at hospital
  21. 00:22 al-Jazeera correspondent: fierce clashes between Hezbollah and Israel troops foils Israeli landing
  22. 00:05 Large fire breaks out in Baalbek after Israeli shelling near Hikmeh Hospital
  23. 00:02 Second Israeli landing attempt on Tal al-Abiad near Hikmeh Hospital in Baalbek confronted by Hezbollah

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Boud 00:56, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

I have my doubts about that blog since it claims that the Hikmeh hospital was "destroyed completely" during the Israeli raid, but if you watch the CNN reports (just go to CNN and look at the video of the raid) or check out reports made after the raids the hospital is still quite clearly intact and standing. The only damage that can be seen are bullet holes in the walls and damaged cars in the parking lot. The blog also claims that Hezbollah prevents the Israelis from carrying out a number of landings but doesn't seem to state when the Israelis actually made a successful landing for there to be fierce fighting at the hospital. 72.27.85.54 02:37, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] changed text

changed part of the text in the 2006 section to read less like it was written by haaretz. Also changed the word terrorist to insurgent because technically and for all intensive purposes, they are in their own country defending their own ground. (Unsigned post by Anonymity:146.235.66.52: Hezbollah "insurgents"! Cheeky!)

[edit] Literal meaning of "Baalbek"

In the article it is noted that "Baalbek" means "Lord of the Beqaa valley", however "Beqaa" itself literally means "valley", so shouldn't "Lord of the Valley" be the more correct literal translation of "Baalbek" instead of the current phrasing which seems a bit redundant to me?72.27.85.54 02:40, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ruins weren´t damaged

I deleted the following: "During the 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict, ancient ruins were slightly damaged on July 30 and the Hikmeh Hospital was heavily damaged early in the morning of August 2.

On July 30, 2006, the New York Times reported slight damage to the ruins from vibrations caused by Israeli aerial bombing[1]"

[1 - footnote]: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/30/world/middleeast/30bekaa.html?ex=1311912000&en=7aef45969c6fe989&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

The NY-Times-article does NOT mention any damage of the ruins. (Better you copy & paste the address in your browser to open the NY-Times-article). E. B., 21:27, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

note from NYT article:

"He pointed out where some of the cracks in the pillars HAVE WIDENED at the Temple of Bacchus.

“Now we have two kinds of ruins in Baalbek,” Mr. Jammal said. “Those that were created by earthquakes in past centuries and those that were created by bombs in past days.” "

Those comments are from the mayor of Baalbek, he seems to be remarking that the Israeli bombs widened existing cracks in the ruins.

[edit] Biggest Stone ever moved

I would like to show 'the' stone. Its a puzzle how it was worked and moved. The picture depicted on wikipedia.de givse an idea of its size. Would be wonderfull to have the picture here and on commons. Pitohui (talk) 10:21, 28 April 2008 (UTC)