Talk:B-25 Mitchell

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[edit] Error

I just noticed the spec

3,200 lb (1,800 kg) bombs

Clearly an error, as 3200 lb is more like 1500 kg. But I have no idea which number is right, so I'll leave that to the experts...

It's 4,000 lb (1,815 kg). Thanks for catching that one! - Emt147 Burninate! 06:23, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Empire State Building

Currently the article contains no mention of the 1945 crash. I figure it's worth a mention in here, because that and the doolittle raid are probably the two events that place the B-25 in the public eye. Night Gyr 06:39, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Not only that, but, on September 11, 2001,after the first plane crashed into the first tower of the World Trade Center, people were referring to the B-25 hitting the Empire State Building, (in bad weather). Until the second plane slammed into the second tower of the World Trade Center. Then they stopped talking about the B-25 accident. Also, many people before 9-11-01,asked the question; what would happen if a plane hit the World Trade Center? The builders would respond that when the B-25 hit the Empire State Building, the structure was not damaged too badly, therefore, if a plane hit the World Trade Center, the building(s) would survive. They failed to take into account the differences between a plane built in the 1940's and a plane built around 2001. 204.80.61.10 18:09, 15 May 2006 (UTC)Bennett Turk

Actually, the World Trade Center was designed to handle a fully loaded 707 hitting it (the WTC was directly in the flight path of three major airports) what they did not take into consideration was fully loaded with fuel hitting at take-off speed hitting the building. The structures of both building are different - Empire State is girder construction while WTC was platform construction (which doe not do too well under both stress & intense fireDavegnz (talk) 19:26, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Modifications that won the war

Can someone have a look at Rattlesnake Island, Queensland and Mount Louisa and if there is any useful information, update this article.

thanks

[edit] "Museum" display

There is a B-25 bomber ("Skunkie") at Owens Field in Columbia that is, I believe, visible to the public. I've seen it on my own (actually been up to it, around it) once, in addition to a number of old jeeps. However, I went by recently and the gate was locked. With permission from the airfield, I believe one may see the plane. It is visible partially in the old hangar (http://www.curtisswrighthangar.com/start.html) over the doors. If you think this can count as being added to the list, please let me know. Zchris87v 03:23, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

== Regarding "Catch-22" The aircraft in "Catch-22" were B-24 Liberators, not B-25 Mitchells. And I thought it was a B-24 which struck the Empire State Building, not a B-25.

Suggest you goto Catch-22 for the entire B-25 listing done in December 2007Davegnz (talk) 19:22, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Some people confuse the B-24 and B-25 because of their tails. But the B-24 was a much larger aircraft. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Steven Den Beste (talk • contribs) 03:39, 7 December 2006 (UTC).

Catch 22 used B-24s? Perhaps the viewer was watching in stereo. Buk 17:08, 7 April 2007 (UTC).

The survivors page does not list the B-25J on display at the Air Zoo in Kalamazoo, MI. It is listed on the Air Zoo's Wiki page at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Zoo, which does not state that it is a replica.

I corrected that one without even seeing your note. Also, please sign your talk-page comments with four tildes; it lets us see not just who made the comment, but date-stamps it, too. Rdfox 76 14:17, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Flaming Mamie

The section on the de-icing tests is way out of line with the rest of the article. It really needs paring or a separate page, IMHO. Buk 17:08, 7 April 2007 (UTC).

Done -Signaleer 13:52, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding "Survivors"

The Collings Foundation owns and operates a B-25J (http://www.collingsfoundation.org/tx_b-25jmitchell.htm) which should be added to the list. It is an operational aircraft that flies to many cities in the United States each year as part of their "Wings of Freedom" tour. I was able to view this fine aircraft up close at Moffett National Airfield a couple of days ago.User:Cephas2000 07:22, 19-May-2007 (UTC)

At a recent Air show at Bellville, Willow Run Airport, MI they had 15 B-25s flying, at list of them can be found at http://www.yankeeairmuseum.org/airshow/aircraft.htm

bunch of posting - B-25 Survivors has been moved - lots and lots of links enjoyDavegnz (talk) 19:20, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] survivors

hey guys, I saw a b25 this weekend, it flew over my house, assume it was going home from the biggin hill air show, anyone know where it came from? http://www.airdisplaysint.co.uk/display.php The penfool 13:10, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestion for the survivor list

Since there are so many B25's listed as surviving in the article, should they be spun off to their own Surviving B-25 Mitchells? Then we could expand on the individual planes, and the article would be a little less cluttered. --TLein 06:24, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Done that - enjoyDavegnz (talk) 19:19, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Popular culture - Novel reference

Anyone else ever read Whip by Martin Caidin and think it'd warrant some coverage here? The machinegun-heavy Mitchells feature extensively in that novel. 'Course, the novel would merit an article of its own as well. --TLein 06:30, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Er, that gunpod

Just a little one, the "late model" gunpod was actually the first design of gunpod used on the B-25; it was based on a design manufactured in Brisbane, Australia for "Pappy" Gunn's B-25 gunship conversions. The later design of gunpod used two separate, elongated-oval shaped blisters...Minorhistorian (talk) 23:36, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Caption updated. Thanks for finding the mistake! --Kralizec! (talk) 18:06, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Otherwise a good article. Cheers Minorhistorian (talk) 22:15, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Survivors

New article on B-25 Survivors now open - moved info from old section (as needed) to new

[edit] Range

I understand the aircraft had a superior range, enabling its role in the Doolittle raid. Could anyone explain which design features contributed to this? Any key technologies?--Cancun771 (talk) 19:16, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Superior is a comparative, superior range to what? The range required for the Doolittle raid required removing almost all nonessential hardware and systems to reduce overall aircraft weight. -- Thatguy96 (talk) 22:32, 23 February 2008 (UTC)