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I updated this page a little since I'm very interested in the bosozoku subculture but unfortunately the link I provided is somewhat outdated and full of broken links. If anyone could provide a better link and some pics for the article, I would greatly appreciate it. -An unregistered bastard

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[edit] Bosozoku are passé?

I've also read somewhere that bosozoku are not commonly seen in Japan as much as before probably since the look and the culture is considered "out of style" by modern Japanese youth. Is there any truth to this? -An unregistered bastard

While definitely not as common in this day in age, I still see them somewhat often travelling really slowly in massive hordes down the downtown streets escorted by police cars.--hyde-nobuyuki(@osaka)220.12.252.3 02:08, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The "Yankee" subculture

There is also a similar subculture in Japan known as "yankees" or "yankii"(ヤンキー) which dress and behave in a style somewhat similar to the bosozoku(i.e. ducktails, dyed hair, sunglasses, baggy clothes etc.). However the major differences are that yankees roll on foot rather than on bikes and are usually still in school(although they tend skip and disturb classes) and because of this they tend to wear traditional Japanese school uniforms(albeit baggier than usual) rather than motorcycle gear. They also have a tendency to wear women's sandals(the males) and aloha shirts. Many yankees are known to eventually join bosozokus at a certain point early in their lives.

That is not a yankee, and it is not a subculture. Yankee was first used to denote rockabilly types who got around on classic motorcycles. It sometimes still has that meaning, although in modern times it now commonly means "thug" and has a bad meaning. 220.253.23.204 (talk) 16:14, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bit on the history

I read on one magazine back in 2002 that the Bōsōzoku gangs were formed after the war as youths in Japan were unhappy about the westernisation if their country is that true?

Willirennen 15.00 28 June 2006

"Very few bōsōzoku members are older than 20 as they are then considered adults under Japanese law and can earn a criminal record. Bōsōzoku members older than 20 are considered immature and childish."

This is no longer accurate. Most bosozoku members are now adults. See the following link: http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national/20070202TDY02001.htm

192.200.128.45 15:56, 2 February 2007 (UTC)Ghaleon

Yeah, you can see many older bosozoku groups in the cities, generally dressed in black leather, and dancing to music and just socializing. This article has some misconceptions. 220.253.23.204 (talk) 14:14, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "known to show consideration to residents" -- Not in my experience!

"Unlike street gangs from other countries and despite their anti-social nature, bōsōzoku members are known to show consideration to residents of rural areas by performing their runs at around 8pm when most people are still awake."

I seriously question this statement. I lived two years in Maebashi-shi, Gunma-ken and our bōsōzoku seemed to take a perverse pleasure in driving past my apartment at any time they felt like (as long as it was late) constantly and quickly revving their engines to make as much noise as they could. They would often be followed by a police car keeping its distance, never actually stopping them. Gutless buggers. My friend and colleague often lost a lot of sleep because she lived close to the station and they would often spend the whole nut driving around and revving there. I have no good memories of these selfish little fuckers from my time in Japan. They are in no way indicative of Japanese culture in general. In my experience noise is usually a consequence of some kind of mischief on the part of young yobs but in the case of the bōsōzoku, as much noise as possible was the name of the game. -- Another unregistered bastard

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I concur with the above post. I have lived in the Osaka/Nara area for nearly twenty years and the bosozoku are often active in the small hours of the morning with the evident intent of waking as many people as possible.

It is noticeable that they only operate when the weather is nice, and never seem to be out and about when it is cold or rainy. -- Unregistered —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.37.86.178 (talk) 09:20, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

No biker anywhere in the world wants to go out riding when its raining, what a dumb comment. 220.253.42.131 (talk) 08:05, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

Bōsōzoku style.
Bōsōzoku style.

We have an IP removing the picture. Since it's the only free picture I've found that should the bōsōzoku style it's the best we have so far and it should stay. If you have a better free picture bring it! // Liftarn (talk)

I'm not saying I have a better picture to offer, but the problem with that one is it looks more like people dressing up as Yankees at a cosplay convention (note the girl in the bright wig in centre background, girl in yellow costume on right, and someone clutching a manga picture bottom left) than real bosozoku. --DrHacky (talk) 05:20, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
That picture is a parody. It is not bosozoku, and is comical. 220.253.112.99 (talk) 13:57, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Yes, the picture shows people dressed as bōsōzoku that may not be actual bōsōzoku, but it serves as an illustration to the style until a better one can be found. // Liftarn (talk)
No, that does not show the bosozoku style. This is delinquent bosozoku [1], [2]. Which is the only bosozoku you seem to mention. Why did you enter the picture in the talk page? You appear more upset that someone removes your picture more than anything else, and had to show it anyway you can. 220.253.109.167 (talk) 22:34, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
That's what it says "Bōsōzoku style". Yes, nice pictures, but as far as I can tell they are not free to use. // Liftarn (talk)
What? That is not "bosozoku style" I really feel you don't know what you are talking about. 220.253.152.206 (talk) 20:28, 19 February 2008 (UTC)


The picture comes from http://flickr.com/photos/99051554@N00/79359779 where it is clearly described as "Japanese bosozoku: the "speed tribe," an aesthetic in decline, roughly based on European-American working class aesthetic of the 1950s.". // Liftarn (talk)
I'm going to try my best to avoid a "personal attack" with that post. It is not even laughable. I feel pity for you, as you must be an easy target for swindlers. 220.253.35.222 (talk) 15:01, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
You are obviously very passionate about the subject. I reccomend you put that energy in trying to locate a better picture to illutrate the article. // Liftarn (talk)


That is most certainly not Bosozoku, that is a bunch of idiots dressing up in a weird camp semi-Bosozoku style, it would be better to have no image than to have that one. Sennen goroshi (talk) 17:17, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bosozoku

Bosozoku are motorbike gangs. http://eow.alc.co.jp/暴走族/UTF-8/?ref=sa

It does not mean they are delinquent or criminals. This article has many errors and slander. 220.253.112.99 (talk) 12:39, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Bosozoku are in many cases delinquents or as I prefer to put it, total assholes. These are in many cases the kids who drop out of school, and many of their acts are most certainly criminal in nature. If there are errors, improve them. Sennen goroshi (talk) 17:13, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Go to Yoyogi Park and see real bosozoku. Only because there are delinquent bosozoku does not mean that is way of bosozoku. That is like saying all pop music is garbage, because there is Ayumi Hamasaki. I can not change article in full, because my English is not good for it. 220.253.49.106 (talk) 02:57, 31 May 2008 (UTC)