Talk:Azeris in Turkey
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I've readded the sourced information on the expulsion of Azeris from Armenia in 1918 through 1920. Parishan 09:49, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- The Russian source is 404 not found[1],I don't see anything in Anderson source that supported the sentence[2]. --VartanM 23:20, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] assimilation ?
last paragraph "Today Azeris in Turkey are a growing and well-integrated minority. However, just like Azeris in Iran, many of them are exposed to cultural and language assimilation."
Oh come on, how can people who share a common language, culture, religion with Turks be assimilated ? When and who in Turkey tried to change Azeri culture ? It is ridiculous ! Turkish and Azerbaijani are mutually intelligible, so how can Turks assimilate their own language ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.235.25.144 (talk) 23:08, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Unreliable source?
The book "Azerbaijan and the Challenge of Multiple Identities" by Alireza Asgharzadeh is not a reliable source . By WP:SOURCES ,
All articles must adhere to Wikipedia's neutrality policy, fairly representing all majority and significant-minority viewpoints that have been published by reliable sources, in rough proportion to the prominence of each view. Tiny-minority views and fringe theories need not be included, except in articles devoted to them.
Mr.Asgharzadeh is a known Pan-Turk with expressed anti-Persian and anti-Iranian points of view.His book is not reliable.--Alborz Fallah (talk) 16:15, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
- Says who?
- And what does this article have to do with anti-Iranianism? It's not undermining or challenging the position of Iran or Iranians in any way. Or do you disagree with it just because it doesn't make Azeris look marginal? 99.226.143.206 (talk) 05:47, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
- His book is not reliable.NPOV a general rule in Wikipedia. The article doesn't need to mention the anti-Iranian parts of that book, when a source is not standard, that means it can't be used in any aspect. More than that, when according to that source, it's claimed in the article "After (21 Azar) in Iran (1946), political immigrants from Iran increased the numbers of Azeris in Turkey", it means it is challenging the Iranian government's actions on maintaining its territorial integrity.
As the Iranian and Turkey's governments were anti-communists in that time, it is highly improbable for Turkey to accept any communist participant in 21 Azar revolt. No record from such immigration is present in any historical document from that time; set aside its magnitude is so high to change the ethical composition of Turkey!
And no ! I'm Azeri myself and I don't want to make Azeris look marginal. Two branches of Pan-Turkism are now battling each other for inventing a new identity for Iranian Azeris : The Pan-Azeri branch want to invent a non-Iranian Azerbaijan republophilic identity , and the Turkeyphilic one wants to build a Turkish one.As the struggles between two party goes on , there is a battle between them in naming the Azeri language "Turki " or "Azeri" , in considering a separate identity for Azeris of Turkey and in interpretation of history (e.g. about Safavids).It seems that this particular book may belong to the Pan-Azeri branch and that means whatever it says , can't be considered as reliable .--Alborz Fallah (talk) 10:42, 5 April 2008 (UTC)