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Mid importance class as covers large area. Very good article but will need to fleshed out a little before it can be nominated for the good article nomination process. The maps and pictures are useful however it would not pass the GA test due to lack of refrences. Franko2nd 15:29, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Irvine: New town? Or ancient royal burgh?

I note the reference to Irvine as a new town. It seems to have history, also, as an ancient royal burgh. Laurel Bush 16:11, 6 February 2006 (UTC).

Yes, it is a historic burgh, but was also designated a New Town in much the same way as other historic towns such as Northampton or Peterborough. In the LG(S)A 1973, the Cunninghame district is composed of: In the county of Ayr--the burghs of Ardrossan, Irvine, Kilwinning, Largs, Saltcoats, Stevenston, the districts of Irvine, Kilbirnie, West Kilbride; those parts of the designated area of Irvine New Town within the Ayr and Kilmarnock districts. In the county of Bute--the burgh of Millport; the districts of Arran, Cumbrae. Owain (talk) 16:19, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Cheers. Laurel Bush 16:52, 6 February 2006 (UTC).

Irvine's New Town designation has expired. The Irvine Development Corporation that oversaw the structural development of Irvine, Kilwinning, Dreghorn et al as a new town has been disbanded by the provisions of The New Town (Irvine) Winding Up Order 1993 on 31st December 1996. See http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1993/Uksi_19933061_en_1.htm So the New Town chapter of Irvine's history has now gone. 85.211.27.104 (talk) 21:12, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I have removed the reference to Irvine as being a New Town and a Burgh. These two aspects of Irvine's history are dealt with in the wikipedia entry for Irvine. Ayr is also a Royal Burgh. However this is not mentioned. I wonder whether stylistically speaking we need to go into it one this particular article?85.211.27.104 (talk) 21:21, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Historic districts and counties

I read:

Cunninghame included the Isle of Arran until Act [1889] when the islands administration was taken over by Bute.

There were however a Buteshire county constituency and an Ayrshire county constituency dating from 1708, and the former seems to have included the Isle of Arran. There seems to have been some sense of Buteshire and Ayrshire as counties dating from, at the latest, 1708, with Arran within Buteshire.
Laurel Bush 12:01, 5 June 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Greetings from Australia

For the purposes of Australian Prime Minister Andrew Fisher, can someone advise me if there's any information on wikipedia about Crosshouse, Ayrshire? Timeshift 00:21, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Local Government Section

I have corrected the following section

"Ayrshire county council was created in 1890, under the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1889. In 1930 three districts were formed within the county, under the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1929, to administer functions previously the responsibility of parish councils: the districts of Carrick, Cunninghame and Kyle."

I do not believe this is correct. Officially Ayrshire County Council had the name Ayr County Council. From what I can see the "shire" ending was not used in Scotland. John Strawhorn in his history of the Royal Burgh of Irvine and History of Aryshire uses the expression Ayr County Council. I have come across a letter amongst family papers sent from County Buildings, Wellington Square, Ayr during the 1950's which is headed Ayr County Council!

In terms of district council details cited above. I think this may also be incorrect. I have read in Strawhorn's History of Ayrshire that in 1930 the the Burghs such as Irvine, Kilwinning, Ayr and Kilmarnock continued with their own councils as Small or Large Burghs. Outwith the Burghs I seem to recall that the Parishes were replaced with TEN district Councils. I do know from local knowledge that the villages and area to the west of the present Irvine bypass - Dreghorn, Perceton, Springside et al were confusingly administered by an Irvine District Council - not to be confused with the Royal Burgh of Irvine Town Council. The official name may have been Irvine Landward District Council.

From what I can ascertain Cunninghame, Kyle and Carrick were not used as council names until the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1973 came into force on 16th May 1975.85.211.42.171 (talk) 20:45, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I have found my copy of Ayrshire: The Story of a County by John Strawhorn, 1975. It states that it is sponsored by 'Ayr County Council'.80.42.176.210 (talk) 19:33, 25 March 2008 (UTC)