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Archives: 2007, 2008

[edit] Discussions

[edit] Template:Project Chanology protests, March 15, 2008

FYI. Cirt (talk) 09:15, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Also, if you can get a chance, it would be helpful to add these same secondary sources as they appear to the "Sources" section, at n:Wikinews international report: "Anonymous" celebrates L. Ron Hubbard's birthday#Sources. Cirt (talk) 09:20, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
OK, thanks. Do you think we should transclude the template into the article from now? Since it will be fully sourced, I think we could. Ayla (talk) 11:31, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
I would wait. My inclination would be to work on it a bit, and add it in perhaps by the end of the day, if a multitude of secondary sources come out. As far at the article itself, I have been steadily compiling new sources to incorporate, and listing them on the article's talk page, but just haven't sat down and added stuff in paragraph form to the article yet, but I will at some point soon. Cirt (talk) 11:33, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
I'd like to point out style considerations in the placement of the template. Because it takes up the entire width of the article, it needs to be placed in a position that's not near images and can fully take up that space without creating gaps in the text. Also, I am of the opinion that it should be placed at the end where it doesn't look out-of-place sandwiched between two sections of text. However, if you can provide a convincing reason and example where it is better in such a position, I'd be happy to concede the point. Maratanos (talk) 20:59, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Logical flow of text content. The last two paragraphs talk about events which happened after the February 10 protests. However, that section has been worked upon mostly by Cirt, so I'll leave it up to him to decide whether the new layout is acceptable. Also, from your alterations I'm assuming you're on widescreen; keep in mind that most people still use 1024x768. Any width for the template below 90% results in split rows. Ayla (talk) 21:05, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

I have no problem with those templates at the very bottom of their respective subsections. FYI, I have begun to do some preliminary work with a new subsection for March 2008, you may want to add some of those cites for statistics to the new template as I add paragraph-form stuff to the article itself re: the turnouts. I will try to get to add more stuff to the article from the secondary sources I put on the talk page, and I will do it at some point - but a heads up that I might not get to it for a week or so, due to some other stuff on my plate. Cirt (talk) 08:25, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Anonymous (group)

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[edit] Useful source

Cook, John. "Scientology - Cult Friction: After an embarrassing string of high-profile defection and leaked videos, Scientology is under attack from a faceless cabal of online activists. Has America's most controversial religion finally met its match?", Radar Online, Radar Magazine, March 17, 2008. Retrieved on 2008-03-20. 

Has info on statistics for February 10 - according to the article 6,000 turned out worldwide on February 10, in 100 cities. Cirt (talk) 11:25, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Same source says 200 people attended February 10 protest in Clearwater, Florida. Cirt (talk) 11:39, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
And says that (according to Anonymous) 500 people were at both the Los Angeles and London protests on February 10. Cirt (talk) 11:42, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Yes, added (as reference "CookMar17"). Ayla (talk) 12:33, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Sweeeeeeeeeeeet. Cirt (talk) 20:27, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Eh? Peter Griffin? Ayla (talk) 17:20, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
D'oh! Ayla (talk) 10:53, 22 March 2008 (UTC)


[edit] TfD nomination of Template:Project Chanology summary

Template:Project Chanology summary has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Eleven Special (talk) 14:37, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reliable Source

What is considered a reliable source for that sort of thing? (referring to the deletion of san juan on project chanology)

Wachapon2 02:28, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your template expertise

You seem to be really good at putting these together and working on them - what do ya say we start up Template:Project Chanology protests, April 12, 2008 ? There are a good number of sources reporting on numbers - 300 in London [1], 135 in Clearwater, Florida [2], 150 in Boston [3], etc. - On the other hand if there aren't as numerous an amount of secondary sources as there were for the previous 2, as far as reported turnout in number of protesters at the various cities - might be best to not have a template of statistics for this one and just have it mentioned directly in the article text. What do you think? Cirt (talk) 12:41, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

I was thinking along the same lines. If only a small number of cities (say, below 15) are given media coverage, creating a table constrained to those sources would be under-representative. I think we should just list the sources at Talk:Project Chanology#Operation reconnect reports for the next day or two, and then decide whether there are enough to justify a new template. Ayla (talk) 13:53, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
Agreed. Though a day or two might not be enough time to gauge it, but a week would be more than enough time. Cirt (talk) 14:04, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New citation tool

Have you heard about this tool developed by Jehochman (talk · contribs) ? I think you'd really like it: http://wpcite.mozdev.org/ - There is also some info about it on his userpage. Cirt (talk) 07:14, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the recommendation :-) I've installed it, I'll try it out soon. Ayla (talk) 09:06, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the revert (again). Now wondering if I should some of his other contributions oversighted, as apparently he has realised that I am really the Caped Crusader. :O) FlowerpotmaN·(t) 22:36, 18 May 2008 (UTC)