Talk:Axel jump

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[edit] Capitalization

The "A" in Axel is always capitalized: [1] ("Jump Guidelines" 3rd paragraph), [2]. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Yesopenilno (talk • contribs).

I don't think the given link a very definitive reference. All dictionaries I've seen list "axel" as a common noun written in lower case (ref: http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=axel, http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/axel, Random House Webster's College Dictionary). Julesd 20:51, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
I went ahead and corrected the capitalization. Julesd 21:04, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
The Axel (and Lutz) jump is named after a person: Axel Paulson (Alois Lutz), and would be capitalized. Furthermore, the US Figure Skating rulebook as well as the ISU Web site (ref: http://www.isu.org/vsite/vfile/page/fileurl/0,11040,4844-168607-185825-90889-0-file,00.pdf) capitalizes both. Vesperholly 08:58, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cheated jumps

Let's not get into arguing in the main article about whose triple axel attempts were cheated and whose weren't. In particular, my recollection is that both Nakano's and Nelidina's attempts were a lot more cheated than Meissner's, so I don't think it's appropriate to pick on Meissner. The important point is that, cheated or not, all of the jumps mentioned were ratified by the event referee. Dr.frog 13:04, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Quadruple Axel?

This YouTube video suggests that the featured man accomplished a quadruple axel. I have no way of "frame-by-framing" the video, so I can't double check. But I wonder if quadruple axels have been accomplished, just not in competition. If that's the case, the article should be modified. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL7J79vm5BE SeanAhern 13:07, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

The video's fake. Kolindigo 15:50, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Miki Ando and the triple axel

Per WP:Verifiability, "The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material. Any material that is challenged or likely to be challenged needs a reliable source, which should be cited in the article."

No sources have been provided that indicate Ando landed a triple axel at the 2002 Junior Grand Prix Final, or in any other competition. The anonymous user who keeps adding this claims they've seen it on video, but I've also seen video of Ando at this event in which her axel is clearly only a double, and not a triple. Moreover, reliable published sources indicate that Ando has only landed triple axels in practice so far. See, for instance, Ando's ISO biography; and Golden Skate article. The lengthy article on the 2002 Junior Grand Prix Final in the March 2003 issue of Blades On Ice contains 3 or 4 paragraphs on Ando's performance but mentions only the quad salchow; if she'd landed a triple axel at this event, too, it surely would have been notable enough to have been mentioned. Dr.frog 22:20, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

I can also find no evidence that Ando landed a triple axel at 2003 World Juniors. The Blades On Ice article on that competition mentions only Mai Asada's unsuccessful attempt. Again, if Ando had landed it, it would have been notable enough to deserve mention. Dr.frog 23:26, 7 April 2007 (UTC)