User talk:Axamir

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[edit] Salam

Ghaabel nadaareh..lotfan movaazeb oon maqaaleh baashid. --alidoostzadeh (talk) 02:59, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Raasti agar misheh beh man peyghaamak raayaanei befrestid. --alidoostzadeh (talk) 17:16, 26 January 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Your name has been mentioned at Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts

Hello Axamir. You are welcome to join the discussion and add your own comments. EdJohnston (talk) 17:45, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Shatt al-Arab

Hi Axamir. As you can see at the Shatt al-Arab talk page (permalink) I have seen the reference you're using, and discussed it in detail back in October 2007 (that's four months ago). Also notice that in all my edit summaries I included a link to that discussion.

The sentence & reference you're adding is:

The use of the name Arvand for this river goes back to the Avesta3.

Reference:

3. West, Edward William (trans.) (1901) "Bahman Yast" Pahlavi Texts Charles Scribner's Sons, New York, p. 216, note 3.

But that sentence doesn't represent what the reference states. That page 216 contains the Bahman Yast (III, 5), as translated by E. W. West and published by Max Müller in 1880. It includes the following (the bold is mine):

[...] and they hasten much their progress to these countries of Iran which I, Aûharmazd, created, up to the bank of the Arvand3, some have said4 the Frât5 river, [...]

Footnotes:

3. Here written Arang, Arand, or Arvand, but as it is Arvand in §§ 21, 38, that reading seems preferable, the difference between the two names in Pahlavi being merely a single stroke. The Arvand is the Tigris, and the Arang probably the Araxes (see SZS. VI, 20, Bund. XX, 8).
5. The Euphrates.

Now, for absolute clarity, see this comparison of what your sentence and the reference state:

  • Your sentence: In the Avesta the name Arvand is used for the Shatt al-Arab.
  • Your reference: In the Avesta the name Arvand is used for the Tigris.

Can you see the difference now ?

Notice that I'm not claiming that the name Arvand wasn't used for the Shatt al-Arab already by the times of the Avesta. I don't know whether it was used or not. I'm merely pointing out that the reference used does not support such a statement. Bear in mind that the threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. In order to mention in the article that the Shatt al-Arab was named Arvand as far back as when the Avesta was written, we would need a source that clearly, unambiguously states this fact.

Thus, I reverted your edits once again. Do not add that sentence again unless you find a source that backs it by stating this fact in a clear, unambiguous manner. We can discuss the issue at the article's talk page. If you haven't done so yet, please do read carefully our Verifiability and No Original Research policies. If you have any doubts on any of these issues, don't hesitate to ask me. - To keep discussions coherent, I would appreciate if you could post any answer here, in your talk page, please. I will see your post :-) Best regards, Ev (talk) 20:50, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kish Island

The page is protected due to the edit war, and I've opened a discussion on this at Talk:Kish Island. Please try to resolve the issue in the future with discussion as opposed to reverting. Khoikhoi 08:15, 15 May 2008 (UTC)