Talk:Awen

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This article was nominated for deletion on May 20, 2005. The result of the discussion was keep (no consensus).

[edit] A few questions

I don't understand parts of this article. I had to hit 'edit this page' to find out who/what the unnamed source was. ("A source notes that [ ... ] The same source also describes...") I think that could be a lot clearer. Is there a reason for not saying the British Druid Order rather than "a source"? And what is the culture in which Awen is a female name? Welsh culture, or Druid culture? It's not at all clear. --Telsa 23:28, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I would like to see some documentation that the Awen emblem is anything more than a modern logo for the British Druid Order. I feel the picture should be removed or at least clearly labeled as a modern invention- should such documentation not be forthcoming. --Magbhitu

All the second half of this article, including the emblem, is modern "druidic" nonsense and has no place in an article on an important and academically valid part of early medieval Welsh culture (the Awen - a feminine noun, by the way - is central to Welsh poetic tradition). This needs some serious rewriting. The purveyors of "Celtic Mist" have struck once again! Enaidmawr 22:07, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

I've tried to tidy it up a bit but it still needs a lot of work. Half the reference is unusable. Enaidmawr 22:31, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to see some solid references to the origin of the symbol, as well. However, the 'second half' of the article should not be classified as nonsense. If it has a present-day use, it merits an entry, and I can't see anyone being served by splitting the article. --John T. Folden 08:15, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps there should be a reference to the equivalent concept in Germanic thought, "Wod"... the two concepts are pretty much identical, and the Kelts and Germanics are closely related and had much interaction and influence on each other over the millennia. Aelswyth2 17:24, 23 July 2007 (UTC)Aelswyth

A reference to the Irish "imbas" would also seem obvious. 7 January 2008.